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Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by rob1990, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. rob1990

    rob1990 New Member

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    I have a Ardesa spain 50.cal rifle and I was wondering if anyone has any idea what all id need to shoot it as far as what powder and how much and primers? Any help would be great thanks
     
  2. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Don't know the arm. Pics? Anyway...

    Rule of thumb is up to twice the cal in grains of black powder is a healthy load. At 50 Cal. most will tell u FFg. 100 grains would be more than sufficient. You can load a little more and always less. You can also load FFFg, particularly in a shorter gun, but I'd never go over 100 grains with that. .50 cal. 50-grain "pellets" of blackpowder or powder substitute are commonly available (mostly used by hunters).

    Probably uses #11 Percussion Caps. .490 lead balls and some thin lubed patches would probably be useful.

    Fun and safe shooting!
     
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  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    STEP AWAY FROM THE RIFLE.


    You have some reading to do. I am assuming that you have a traditional style side hammer caplock rifle. HERE IS THE OWNER'S MANUAL.

    http://ardesa.com/en/uploaded/MANUALES-DESPIECES/MANUAL RIFLES.pdf

    Print it and read it- ALL of it.

    Two general rules for muzzleloaders-

    First, NEVER shoot anything but real actual true marked that way on the can BLACK powder- or a product made as a black powder substitute, such as Pyrodex. Yes, pellets are fine.

    Second- NEVER attempt to fire a muzzleloader when the bullet is not all the way down the barrel on top of the powder charge. Having a gap between powder and ball will destroy rifle, and not make you look too pretty, either.

    Read the manual, then come back to us with questions.
     
  4. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    I ran my 50 cal with 90 grains of Pyrodex, a .490 ball and .015 patches. I'm thinking that rifle has a drum breech like the CVA's so it probably won't work well with pellets.
     
  5. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I agree with Hawg, thats what I use in my .50 cap & balls, you can get every thing you need at Wall-Mart, at least I can at mine here...............
     
  6. rob1990

    rob1990 New Member

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    Awsome. You have all be very helpful this guns been sitting in the closet for 5 years since I got it and I have no clue when it comes to blackpowder guns so this helps alot. Thanks
     
  7. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    May I suggest that if u waited five years u should wait a coupla weeks more and get a copy of NRA's blackpowder basics paperback?
     
  8. BigJohn3282

    BigJohn3282 New Member

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    Call Mom, and ask them what there Baby takes. They may have the info you need on there web site. I bet if you called Hodgdon Powder Co. (1-913-362-9455) Tell them what you have they can tell you what you need. Don't guess! Bad things can happen. Go to YouTube, and watch a few how two's.