Help with scope decision for a 270

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by mhandley, Dec 9, 2007.

  1. mhandley

    mhandley New Member

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    Guys,

    Thanks in advance for your advice.

    My first deer rifle has served me well. I bought a used .270 win a the gun show. It has an zoom scope on it - a Bushnell sportview with Weaver mounts.

    After spotting the scope in this fall, I took 2 deer this season with this unit, and 1 was a head shot from about 80 yards. The other was a thorax shot from 125 or so.

    All in all, for the investment, I am more than pleased.

    However, I have my 2008 Wyoming non-resident hunting license application and am looking forward to doing some antelope hunting with my buddies.

    It sounds like Wy antelope is a bit different from Michigan deer hunting which is pretty much like shootin fish in a barrel.

    I am soliciting advice on the scope, beyond the advice I read on the varmint gun where the writer advised to buy as much scope as you can sneak past the little lady ;). To be sure, the little lady presents issues on this scope purchase, but I am so far happy, and do not want to spend $$ I don't need to.

    Do you think my scope and mounts are going to serve me well through the rigors of distance, temperature, wind, etc of Wyoming antelope hunting?
     
  2. Catfish

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    First welcome aboard. I would recomand you get a Leupold. The 3 x 9 is a real good range for a hunting rifle. I would recomand the Vari Xll in 3 x 9 or a step better would be the Vari Xlll in 3.5 x 10. I`ve lot count of the rifles and scopes I have but I`m some where over 30 Leupold scopes and that is what I have on all of my rifles.
     

  3. Tanker60A3

    Tanker60A3 New Member

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    The odds are that you will have no problems with the gear you have (assuming everything you have is in good work order). That said, if I was going to make the trip from Michigan to Wyoming I would strongly consider investing in a scope/gun upgrade.
    Since you are asking for advice I would be willing to bet you feel that a change/upgrade is needed. If you don't have a complete level of confidence in your gear, then I would replace it. Making a shot is about more than just the hardware you are using. You may not ever get to make this trip again, why have to second guess every shot (and maybe the only shot) you will get on this trip?
    All that said, go Leupold scope on top of Leupold bases. Yes there are as good or better scopes out there. Yes there are less expensive or more expensive scopes out there. All that said, Leupold is the brand I am most comfortable recommending to put on top of a centerfire hunting rifle. In the Leupold "Rifleman" series you can get all the scope you will ever need for under $200. Scope and bases is south of $250, not bad for peace of mind!
    Now, if the budget will stand it, I would go up to a 7mm Remington Magnum. A flat hard hitting shooter in a bolt action, matte finish, synthetic stock. More recoil than your 270, but more options than your 270 (i.e. range, bullet weights, and less need for range estimates). Also, you can find ammo for it at any Wal-Mart. If you are ever away from home on a hunt and realize you don't have ammo, for whatever reason, there is usally a Wal-Mart closer to you that an exotic ammo emporium.
    By selling or trading in your present rig it might not be that much of a finanical stretch to get the rig I described. Or you could just go to the range with your 270 and shoot until your shoulder turns black and blue. After that you and that 270 might be bonded for life.
    John Q.
     
  4. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I'd just run your current setup, but put a dozen rounds through it once you get to Wyoming, just to be sure you're still zeroed at the new attitude and climate.
     
  5. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    There's a few choices that won't break your bank. I HIGHLY reccomend you upgrade scope,speaking as gunsmith with 26+ years experience. Here's why: NO offence but you have a cheaply made scope and odds are that it'll leak/get knocked outta zero/fail/or otherwise mess up on you sometime in future. A good scope is CHEAP ins to assure a lifetime of great service. Spending that much on a hunt with a 30 dollar scope don't make sense.
    Leupold vari x 2,burris full field 2 or nikon prostaff all come in 3x-9x-40mm and weaver V10 comes in 2x-10x-38mm and all these scopes are 150-200 will serve you without EVER wishing you had a better scope.
     
  6. mhandley

    mhandley New Member

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    Thanks

    Thanks gents.

    Your advice is well taken, pretty much what I expected.

    I'll count on gettin me a new scope, Leupold probably.

    I like the rifle, I think the .270 is enough fire power to ruin the day for any deer or antelope, most elk probably, too.

    BTW a buddy of mine I was hunting with last month took a doe with a 7mm weatherby. Now that's a CANNON! Nice piece of hardware, but more like artillery than a rifle, maybe a bit over the top for deer and antelope.
     
  7. sureshot43

    sureshot43 New Member

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    I have both a 270 and a 7mm rem mag. I also have relatives in wyoming,but havent hunted there YET!! When I do go BOTH guns are going along. For the 270, I'll probably shoot Hornady Light mag ammo(if I dont use handloads) with the SST bullet. I have an old(but very reliable) Tasco 3-9 scope on it now,but for a special trip, would step up to better optics. On my 7 mag, I have a Nikon scope and really like it, but you will NEVER go wrong with a Leupold. I have never heard of anyone having problems with them. 3-9X40 is a good all around scope,but for out there,consider a 4.5-14X. You might appreciate the extra magnification at longer ranges of antelope hunting. I also would be looking at spending $200 as a starting point for a decent scope. Good luck, the 270 is plenty of gun.
     
  8. sureshot43

    sureshot43 New Member

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    By the way, my 270 was bought used almost 20 years ago and even though my 7 mag is a much prettier rifle, the 270 is my favorite to shoot. Both are Remington 700's, both will print cloverleaf groups from the bench with factory ammo. The old 270 just feels like your favorite slippers every time I shoulder it.
     
  9. mhandley

    mhandley New Member

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    comment on the bayonet clamps on bolt

    Gents,

    Great stuff. Please comment on the bayonets which clamp the bolt closed.

    My old .270 has a twin clamp bayonet - the feature that hold the bolt nice and tight in the chamber. I compared this with my buddies 7mm Weatherby which had 6 bayonets around the circumference of the bolt, and three rows of these little bayonets - for a total of 18 clamping nibs on the bolt.

    Will I run into repeatability issues in terms of the dimensional mounting of the cartridge in the chamber with this old gun?

    Again, this is related to the 600 yard shot I might have to take in Wy, compared to the Michigan deer hunting - which is almost easier with a hatchet than a firearm!! LOL.

    Again, thanks a lot gents. A new scope - Leupold or Nikon is in the plans. Funny thing about that - that's just what I though the little lady had in mind for herself this year!! :D
     
  10. Tanker60A3

    Tanker60A3 New Member

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    Bayonet Clamp?

    I must confess that I have never heard the term "bayonet clamp" used. I assume you are talking about the bolt locking lugs, and if there was a wear issue their that affected bolk lock-up, well you would have all kinds of problems that would have already shown up!
    Different gun makers use different locking lug patterns mainly to be different from each other. Is one better than the other? Do you like Ford, Dodge, Toyota, Nissan, or Chevrolet trucks? Any one will get the job done!
    John Q.
     
  11. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    My dad hunted everything with his .270. He took 900 pound bull elk with it and absolutely hated scopes. I've never seen him take a shot longer than 50 yards and 90% of his shots where thoracic shots. He felt that anything over that was a desperation shot. A lot of using a .270 on big animals comes down to technique.
     
  12. sureshot43

    sureshot43 New Member

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    And bullet construction. I wouldt hesitate to use my 270 on any 4 legged critter in N.A.( except BIG bears) with the right bullet.
     
  13. pioneer461

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    Being a former Leupold employee, I always recommend them. There are many size, power and reticle combinations. Their VX1 and Rifleman scopes can be had fairly cheaply, and they are covered by the same lifetime warranty as all of their other products. Contrary to industry rumors, they are all made in the USA.

    http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/

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  14. Ruger1

    Ruger1 New Member

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    I've been shooting a .270 for almost 40 years now, I own other rifles, but I always come back to my Ruger .270. I'm setting up another one now. Try www.natchezss.com They have good prices and an excellent selection.
     
  15. gunsandoptics.com

    gunsandoptics.com New Member

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    Dan

    To add to the comments above, if money is an issue and it usually is, look at the Mueller line of red dot scopes (e. Arthur Brown & Co.) which can be had for under $200 and are a big improvment over the Bushnell Banner series. Also consider the Bushnell 3200 elite series scopes. One can pick up a 3X9X40 with rain guard and firefly reticle for around $225 or LESS. They are a great scope for the money. Check out the full line of several manufacturers at a GREAT price at www.bearbasinoutfitters.com.

    I have found their prices beat SWFA, Optics planet and several other places such as Cabelas, Basspro etc. Their selection is second to none.

    You will be happy with the .270 Win. It shoots flat and hits hard, and will bring home the venison near and far. I have an older Ruger mdl 77 MKII that shoots the 130 grainers and the 150's very well, but doesn't like the 140 grain loads much. Dan
     
  16. bogey

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    .270

    Hell, I live in Wyoming;have shot everything here, except Moose(used a .300, with a .243 which is a fine deer/antelope cartridge. Have also shot everything with a .270, own three; it will certainly do the job if you do yours. What the Hell is this 600 yard shooting? Have also shot deer/elk with .308 and 3006 and years ago an old thutty thutty. Bring the .270!
     
  17. fluffo63

    fluffo63 New Member

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    ..save some money..buy a simmons aetic,the new ones are superb quality:D
     
  18. Coyote3

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    I live in the good old state of Wyoming that you are referring to. A .270 is all that I hunted with since I was 14 up to a few years back. My dad always handloaded 130 spitzer boat tails at around 3400 feet per second. We would sight our guns in 2 inches high at a hundred. At this we were 5 inches high at 200, dead on at three and about 18 inches low at 400. This took more deer, elk and antelope than you can count on all your fingers and toes. Good optics are a must. Go down to your sporting goods store, fork out 150 buck and buy a 4-12x44 or equivalent Millett scope and your ready to go. The warranty on this scope is one of the best and the optical clarity for the money is superb. Plus you get a cross-hairrr instead of a two toothpicks inside the scope for crosshairs. If you get a license around the Big Horn Basin area give me a post.
     
  19. gunsandoptics.com

    gunsandoptics.com New Member

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    .270 scope

    For the money, the Bushnell 3X9X40 Elite 3200 with rainguard is a great buy. It is NOT fully multi-coated like its big brother the 4200, but can be had for under $200 in several outlets. Right now one can purchase the 3X9X40 Elite 4200 which does have fully multi coated lenses and rainguard for around $250.00.

    Other great scopes for less money would be the Mueller red dot 3X9X40 with 1/8 min clicks. They do NOT advertise but you can find these scopes for around $150.00 and the optics are very good. I have two of these. One on a 30-06 Savage bolt gun and a 2X7X32 (1/4 min clicks on a Rem mdl 7400 30-06).

    The Burris fullfield II is another sleeper scope with darn nice optics for $200 or less.

    Help this helps.

    Dan