Help with old obsolete revolver

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by kmglocks, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. kmglocks

    kmglocks New Member

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    Hello, recently I received and old flip top revolver from a friend as a project. It's a harrington and richardson arms .38 s&w. Don't know much about it though. All i know is that the cylinder doesn't lock on it. Any ideas as i do not know much about revolvers, thanks! I will attach pics.

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  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    What do you mean it doesn't lock? Does it cycle when you pull the trigger? Does the stop come up out of the frame?
     

  3. kmglocks

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    You can freely spin the cylinder when its in battery. It cycles when you pull the trigger too.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Most of the H&R or Iver Johnson top break revolvers had an action that did not lock the cylinder in position UNTIL it was at the point of firing.

    When the hammer is cocked, the cylinder SHOULD be locked in position. When hammer is down, free spinning.

    These revolvers were made by the hundreds of thousands. If the caliber is marked ON THE BARREL, it should be OK with modern day ammo. If elsewhere, then it dates from the black powder era.

    Yours appears to be in good finish. I would get a competent pistolsmith to look it over before shooting it. H&R and Iver Johnson made decent guns- they were not junk (and yeah, there were some junk guns back then) Prices were not high then- or now- unless you have one in like new condition.
     
  5. mountainman13

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    Ok. So if you open it up and look at the little slot on the top of the frame (over the trigger) and you cock the hammer. Does the stop come up through the slot?
     
  6. kmglocks

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    That makes sense, it just didnt seem logical that it spun freely as i am used to more modern revolvers. Thanks for the reassurance.
     
  7. danf_fl

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  8. kmglocks

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    Just an fyi when the hammer is back the cylinder rotates or has give in it so the cylinder has the possibility of not meeting the barrel flush, not good.
     
  9. mountainman13

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  10. kmglocks

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    Yes it does.
     
  11. mountainman13

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    Does it come up enough to hold the cylinder in place?
     
  12. kmglocks

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    Yes but the cylinder wobbles and does not stay flush.
     
  13. mountainman13

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    Well you've narrowed it down.
     
  14. kmglocks

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    What do you think?
     
  15. mountainman13

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    Not sure. It shouldn't wobble. The arm could be bent or something.
     
  16. kmglocks

    kmglocks New Member

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    Which arm? Not familiar with revolvers(obviously ha ha)
     
  17. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    The rod that goes through the cylinder.
     
  18. kmglocks

    kmglocks New Member

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    Gotcha, I will check it tomorrow, thanks for all of your help!
     
  19. mountainman13

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    Glad to help. Good luck with it.