Help with a scope?

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by scott92, Nov 3, 2010.

  1. scott92

    scott92 New Member

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    Ok so im purchasing a 7mm Rem Mag, but the whole scope thing has me confused. For example the power and what not. 3-9, 4-12, and 6-18. What does this mean. Sorry im not too smart about the scopes. But otherwise than that i have found 3 scopes, Nikon Buckmasters series, Leupold Ultralight Riflescopes, and Leupold Fixed Power Riflescope... Any good news on any of these? thanks and responses would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    A good buddy of mine has a 7mm Mag and I've shot it but I have no idea about its effective range. I do know that it's a fun rifle to shoot.

    As far as scope brands go, I'm partial to Nikons. I think they give excellent value for the money. I'm not knocking the others, I just don't have any experience with them.

    Here's a really good explanation of riflescopes on optics planet, just click on the link: How to choose a Riflescope - Rifle Scope Experts Guide to firearm optcs - Rifle scopes do's & don'ts
     

  3. nwrednk

    nwrednk New Member

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    A 3x9x44 or 3x9 by 44...

    Scope like the Simmons scopes Pop has on his .308 Interarms dual trigger
    Mauser rifle with the Mannlicher stock & my (also) 1981 .308 Win chambered
    Winchester mdl 70 xtr rifle have "see-thru" mounts to allow use of the iron
    sights, under the scope. The 3x9 refers to the variable setting like on a pair
    of binoculars with the aid of a simmilar "thumbknob" & the "44" refers to the
    metric size of the objective lenz, (in our case our scopes have a 44 millimeter
    lenz). To make this "combo" work over 10 years ago we had to do a little
    gunsmithing work to allow for the use of the iron sights even with the "see
    thru mounts" by adding a 1/4"/ 6mm spacer to the scope mounts. The results
    have been very effective as our dogs get to eat as much (if not more deer
    meat than we do)! We have been "spoiled" by Elk meat & have not shot a
    deer in 2 seasons!:)
     
  4. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    The power is easy once it is explained.

    3-9x or 6-24x this is how many times the optics magnify the image. 3-9x starts with an image magnified 3 times and it zooms to magnifying the image 9 times larger than you would see it with the naked eye.

    The last number is the size of the objective lens. That objective lens is the lens on the end of the scope furtherest away from your eye. See images below.

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  5. Snakedriver

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    I'm a 7mm Mag. shooter too and the size / type of scope you get for it will depend somewhat on the type of shooting / hunting you plan to do. 7mm Mag. is ballistically capable of easily making shots at 800-1,000 yards. For that type of range you would want a very high power magnification somewhere around 24 to 32 power on the high end. An adjustable power scope with lower settings would be desirable also for closer shots not needing so much magnification.

    I don't usually make any shots over 200 yards so 3 to 9 power magnification is plenty for me. I would feel plenty comfortable using my 3 X 9 X 40 scope out to 400 yards.

    The last number listed in scopes is the the objective size. Generally speaking the larger the objective size, the better the scope's light gathering capability. This feature is very helpful when hunting in low light conditions like at dawn an dusk. The brighter the scope, the better you'll be able to see your target. Larger objective scopes require higher scope rings to allow the bell to clear the barrel when mounted.

    Because 7mm Mag. has a fairly stout recoil, you'll also want to get a good sturdy scope built for the large calibers. Going cheap probably won't be a good idea for 7mm Mag.. Same goes for rings, some good steel ones will probably be what you want. Don't trust any rings that come with the scope package either. Generally they are not the best quality.

    Good luck choosing your scope! :)
     
  6. R-BOLT

    R-BOLT New Member

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    I traded off my old ruger M77 7 mag this summer for a Blackhawk .45 convertable revolver. Purchased a new 7 mag in a Ruger Hawkeye stainless version, Rugers come with very good strong factory rings, and put a Leupold 30 mm tube European 3x9 50mm objective on it (had to change ring sizes with Ruger-which they do no charge to do). Using it for deer/elk hunting I need a good light gathering scope more than extreme magnification. The European is a little funky as it is a metric scope, but once it is zeroed at 200 yards, I leave my scope be. Got a great deal on it at Optic Planet, but see now Leupold offers a 30 mm tube similar scope in a USA version. It is a pretty nice hunting set up under $1000.00.
     
  7. scott92

    scott92 New Member

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    Alright so im going with the 3x9 but does anyone know any other scope besides the Nikon Bushmaster that has the Bullet Drop Compensator? thanks
     
  8. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger New Member

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    My Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 has BDC.
     
  9. nwrednk

    nwrednk New Member

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    Good advice...

    But, Pop & I did not need a "visual aid" for close shots under 200 yards & pop
    made his first kill with a scope in 2005 & I made my first kill with a scope in
    2008! But, now age has caught up with us & some shots require magnification
    to to verify the species! I could have harvested a very large whitetail buck
    this season...but, it was not an elk & we + the dogs have not consumed the
    deer meat harvested yet!:)
     
  10. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    Forget the BDC. When you hit serious distance all that crap clutters your view. I use a 2-10x38mm Weaver. 400 yards is just stretching its legs. You can't rely on your BDC or any BDC. If I wanted a serious scope, Big money and dead nuts. Have one camed to the bullet weight you use. All the crap and clutter they charge for now is stupid. I'll take a 1937 Ajack for a 156gr 6.5x55 or 196gr 8x57 any day.

    Edit: The Weaver is on a 7mm Rem Mag. 800 to 1000 yards is not realistic at hunting ranges.
     
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  11. tomill

    tomill New Member

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    Look at where made

    I have a 7mm mag Ruger that I put a wood stock on and now it recoils less than any of my 30-06. The scope is an older Bushnell Banner 3-9x40. The older Bushnell is made in Japan using German optics. There is a BL in an oval near the eye end piece. Even the new scopes are made in China. Just look out and get something made where quality still matters like USA, Japan, Germany. Nikon, Bushnell, Leupold most all companies have optics made in China so buyer be ware. Generally you get what you pay for, just look at where that particular scope was made.
    Best of luck :)
     
  12. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    PFI and Zeiss, both work fine in my experience.
     
  13. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    there isnt a us based lens maker anymore. all scope lens come from foreign nations. just look through one that you think ya like. a good optic doesnt care what the colour of the hands are that made it.
     
  14. ccd8541

    ccd8541 New Member

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    Are you speaking of the lens or glass? Two different things.
     
  15. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    IOR Swarofski, S&B all use glass from a few different vendors. They look for the properties they want in glass then find the company making it and order that glass.

    Sorry Nikon and bushnell are not using Chinese glass unless it is in the bottom of the line scopes. If you get a nikon monarch your getting japan or Philippians glass.
     
  16. R-BOLT

    R-BOLT New Member

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    The Cabela brand scope I have in a 1" tube (Alaskan Guide series) was made in Japan and is a pretty nice scope. Purchased and returned (plus one under warranty) their 30 mm tube Alaskan Guide, those were made in China and were terrible scopes.Was a waste of ammo trying to sight in the 30mm scopes. I was amazed they put their name on total junk. Also their poor packaging in shipping did not help them out any either. If the 1" scopes are still made by the same manufacture they are a good value.