Help with a firearm

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by CaseyChadwell, Oct 24, 2010.

  1. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    Ok...a friend is in a bit of a financial bind and needs to offload some guns. He has a neat little '06 I am interested in, but no clue what it is. It has a 1917 Enfield receiver, with the "dog leg" bolt handle. It has a 'flaming cannonball on the bolt handle along with a big "1". The barrel is stamped Cal. 30-06 and a 'flaming cannonball'. The barrel has a sight that appears to be very cheap, something that I would expect to see on a very cheap .22 or a bb gun. The front sight is a ugly...looks like it is off a old Marlin levergun.

    The thing I don't understand is that I thought the flaming cannonball was a mark to show that it was a military rifle. Am I wrong? There is also a very old looking scope, a Weaver V9 3-9...

    What is this rifle and what would the approx. value be in 75-80% condition. Oh...the stock is a cheap, heavy looking walnut that is very much gloss...the thing blinded me driving down the road when the sun hit it.

    Any help would be wonderful...
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Casey- that mark is the "burning Bomb" and IS the mark for US military arms. Sounds like you have a Model 1917. Link for you: Collecting and Shooting the United States Rifle, Caliber .30, M1917 - HISTORY

    How much ANY gun is worth is based on make, model, condition, and ORIGINALITY.

    I can't see your rifle- you are not holding in close enuff to the computer. :p A 17 in very good original condition may be $800 or more. If it has been Bubba'ed up, value drops like rock. Changing sights, cutting stocks, drilling and tapping for a scope, etc.

    BTW, one theory is that the M1917 was the rifle used by SGT Alvin York in WW I.
     

  3. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I think that the term 'buuba-ed up' would be an understatement. The front sight is actually blue and is a basic ramp front sight. The rear sight is a v-notch so I am pretty sure it is not stock.

    As for the Sgt. York thing, I had always heard that there was a bunch of controversy that he was using the 1917 instead of the 1903. I guess it would be one of those things that we never really will find out unless we talk to him in Heaven.

    As for the rifle, I took it to a gun shop today and they said that they would not sell it for more than $250 if it were in their shop. He said if I could get it for less than $250 it wouldn't be bad. I think I am going to pass. I would rather lend him the money than to take his prized rifle for that little of money and have him still needing more. Thanks for the information.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    You could lend him the money with the rifle as security, like a pawn shop but with the understanding that you just want a chance to try it out, not to keep it.
     
  5. nwrednk

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    The "flaming bomb" mark is...

    A US ordinance mark, but you might have a "souphound" gun on your hands!:rolleyes:
     
  6. CaseyChadwell

    CaseyChadwell New Member

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    I do not know what a "souphound" is. Could you elaborate?