Help regarding hunting with a Mosin Nagant 91/30

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by Craig_Junior, Mar 21, 2012.

  1. Craig_Junior

    Craig_Junior New Member

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    Hey guys, I'm new to this forum, so sorry if I sound dumb. However, since this is my first time and stuff, I'd really like some help from those who hunt in North Texas.
    I live in Fort Worth, and I'm about to buy a rifle for my first hunting trip, plans and preparations still in the works. Anyway, I've been trying to find out any info I could get, but my friend of kine told me that because of the rifle and/or it's ammunition it uses, I might not be able to use the rifle due to legal issues. I honestly didn't hear him clearly, but another friend too told me the same thing, though the same problem applied, no clear description of why. So I came hear to ask for help from any Texas Hunters who know the regulations of hunting in Texas, so if any of you can answer this question, and give a clear reason why, I'd really appreciate it.

    * Why would a Mosin Nagant 91/30 be illegal to use in hunting in Texas? Is it because of the ammo? Or is it because of the muzzle velocity?

    The one thing I'm worried about is muzzle velocity, cause the store owner said there are hunting rounds that this rifle can use, but I'd still like to know more as well. Any ideas on where I can look this up?
     
  2. tCan

    tCan Active Member

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    The "spam can" military surplus ammo is not ideal for hunting. It is powerful, and very deadly, but there are better rounds out there for hunting. Look for some soft tips.

    As for regulations, check the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department's website for where and what you want to hunt.
    http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/

    You will also have to obey your local and state ordinances. In Texas, I have a hard time believing things would be very restricted.
     

  3. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    In many places, hunting with military surplus ammo is illegal, not because of velocity, but because of it being metal jacketed. You can buy soft point ammo for the Mosin-Nagant that is just fine. Any of the ammo web sites will carry the ammo you need. ( it is not hard to find)

    Buy that Mosin-Nagant!
     
  4. sarg1c

    sarg1c New Member

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    Most states prohibit hunting with FMJ and armour piercing ammo. I personaly would not hunt around anyone using armour piercing ammo. Much too dangerous and will not expand properly for a clean kill on game., I have a sporterized M/N and reload with 125gr sp rounds and would use it if I wanted, But my Rem.700 in .308 is just fine.
     
  5. JTJ

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  6. Craig_Junior

    Craig_Junior New Member

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    Yeah bud, I went to the link, but then I realized that ordering the ammo will cost more than it's worth because of S&H. So if you had any ideas on finding "Soft Point, Non Corrosive" 7.62x54R rounds, I'm all ears. By the way, I checked around some local stores like Academy and that store I found the gun. Academy doesn't sell soft points, even after suggestion from their own employees, and the store I mentioned ran out. Any ideas and suggestions will help.
     
  7. 7X57Mauser

    7X57Mauser New Member

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    Go to the Cheaper Than Dirt store...its near the 35W, 287, 820 interchange...or it was when I was last there.
    There is also a Cabalas just north of there that will have 7.62x54R hunting ammo.
    Stop going to Academy...they are fairly useless, might as well go to Irving looking for beer.
    Another option as you're in the D/FW area, there is probably at least one gun show within 50 miles of you each weekend, get out to the shows and look for ammo. This is hardly a crisis situation.
     
  8. sarg1c

    sarg1c New Member

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    Good hunting rounds are readily available locally. I b ought several boxes for my sporterized M/N mostly to get good brass to reload. If you don't reload, find someone to load you some good rounds that your rifle likes. I like my M/N but I would not really hunt with it, having a nice Rem. 700 in. 308. Good luck,have fun...
     
  9. 7X57Mauser

    7X57Mauser New Member

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    Take the old girl out hunting. I have a 700 in 308 too, and a couple of Model 70s in 270 and 7x57, a couple ARs, a sporterized Mauser in 243, etc. More than enough modern guns, and I enjoy shooting them and do it well.
    That's all well and good, but I have still taken deer with my No.4mk2 Enfield and a Swiss K31. I have a couple on Mosins, an M44 and a Finn M39 and I am likely going to take something with one of them this fall just for fun. These old war horses are much tougher than people think and more than capable of handling a bit of hunting. Besides, it feels pretty good being able to handle game with an old open sighted war relic.
     
  10. therewolf

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    Standard Mosin ballistics are very similar to 150 grain 30.06 rounds.

    I would avoid surplus ammo for serious shooting, such as

    formal target, or hunting, as cartridge uniformity is questionable,

    to put it mildly.
     
  11. 7X57Mauser

    7X57Mauser New Member

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    Wise words.

    Sellier & Bellot makes excellent Mosin ammo of various types and excellent quality.
     
  12. davemccarthy707

    davemccarthy707 New Member

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    Prvi Partizan is good as well.
     
  13. sarg1c

    sarg1c New Member

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    I agree with you guys, take it hunting if you want, many of them shoot quite well and are accurate but I love my 700. Good ammo is still available but I also like reloading the 7.62x54R. I have mine sporterized with a swing over scope mount and mosty shoot it from the bench. I dont shoot surplus ammo unless It would be loadable brass. Don't get me wrong I shoot my M/n but when it come to hunting, no matter what's in the cabinet, I take the ole 700.
     
  14. Rick1967

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    I dont hunt with my Mosin. Not that I wouldn't. But I just have too many guns. But on the subject of ammo...I dont buy the surplus stuff. I bought a few boxes of the reloadable brass stuff and have been using it over and over again. I have used surplus stuff. But after every shot you pratically have to beat the bolt open with a 2x4. Good brass ammo is not like that. My reloads cycle like any modern gun with the best ammo.
     
  15. sarg1c

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    I agree, Rick. They shoot good but not a Rem.700. I have mine setup for bench anyway. If it was all I had,yes I'd hunt with it.
     
  16. 7X57Mauser

    7X57Mauser New Member

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    OK, so this is the FOURTH time that you have name dropped your fabulous, miraculous, fantabulous, Remington 700 in a thread about the Mosin. To top that, you have only posted 10 times, I bet I can guess how many of those posts mention this mythic Remington.
    The guy who started it wanted to know about hunting with a Mosin, not a 700. Many people have 700s, and for good reason, they are great rifles, but for crying out loud stick to the topic!
    I wholeheartedly agree with him hunting with an old war horse, in fact I am likely going to have to take out my Finn M39 this fall just because he's got me thinking about it.
     
  17. therewolf

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    I do use an M44 when scouting and glassing for wild boar.

    Once I'm moving in for the kill, I switch to something

    with more stopping power.
     
  18. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    More stopping power than the big 7.62 Russian.......What do you use a .50 BMG ?
     
  19. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    No doubt...I was thinking the same thing.
     
  20. 7X57Mauser

    7X57Mauser New Member

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    577 Tyrannosaur or maybe a 700 Nitro Express...something capable of bringing down a hog...and the elephant standing behind it.