help me decide on an intelligent handgun purchase

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by field, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. field

    field New Member

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    i have been thinking about getting a new handgun for a while. I have 1 handgun now and it is a
    Taurus PT-111 pro, it has worked very reliably for 6000 shots.

    i am fairly sure that i would like to get another 9mm for a couple reasons, please give me your input on this:

    1. If i generally go to the range every couple weeks or so and use 200 regular 9mm rounds i am spending around $70 when factoring in the 15 mile drive and $10 drop in fee. i would assume that a .40 or a .45 is going to cost alot more to shoot?

    2. then in the .001% chance that i am in a situation where i need to shoot someone in self defenes i heard that something like a .45 (when using hollow point of course) isnt going to make tons of difference in being able to actually cause damage to soft tissue and wound an attacker.


    Because im not super knowledgable please give me some reasons that i might want to consider a caliber higher than 9mm.


    But anyways heres a couple points im looking at when making this purchase

    1. My pt-111 is compact and has a 3in barrel. i would like something larger with a bigger hand grip and a longer barrel, something more suited for target shooting.

    2. i want something with AT LEAST a 12 round mag

    3. Relatively light trigger pull, something similar to the pt-111 or lighter

    4. easy to accessorize (sights, grips, maybe laser ect if i really want)

    5. simple. i want something with a switch saftey and thats it, i dont want tons of saftey trigger saftey, palm saftey ect.

    6. oh and most importantly, $650 or less. Im willing to go over that by a little bit if a certain gun is just an awsome deal to get but definitely not touching $900-1000


    that or maybe tell me what handguns you have and why you got them
     
  2. fapprez

    fapprez New Member

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    I've always heard that a .45 will attain full expansion in a human target where the 9mm travels through the target and expands a minimal amount leaving a small hole on both sides rather than the massive fist sized hole of the .45. I don't know if it's true, but it seems logical.
     

  3. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    The 9mm round will expand as designed (hollowpoint). It all depends on the loading you use as far as penetration/velocity goes.

    As far as a second pistol is concerned, have you thought about getting a full size Taurus with similiar design to your PT-111?
     
  4. gorknoids

    gorknoids New Member

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    The .45 does not leave a fist-sized hole. 20MM does, but not .45.
     
  5. field

    field New Member

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    well i liked the taurus alot but then also its my first handgun. i think it would be smart to try out another brand
     
  6. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Unless he has the worlds tiniest fist.
     
  7. Jay

    Jay New Member

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    Consideration of any handgun requires trade-offs....

    Let's just take between 45, and 9mm........

    9 mm

    more rounds, a little lighter to carry, cheaper ammo, usually cheaper to buy, a bit less energy


    45 fewer rounds, heavier to carry, more expensive, (ammo too) , generally regarded as a better defensive round in terms of impact energy, and expansion........

    Pretty much up to individual preferences. That being said, I carry 1911's in .45 ACP, and have for over 30 years......
     
  8. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    .40's are a little more expensive and .45's are almost twice as much.

    Winchester whiteboxes in my town $11.97 9mm,50rds; $16.97, .40, 50rds; $21.97 .45's 50rds
    Nothing wrong with 9mm for defense imo, but I prefer .40's.

    You want to make bigger holes and pay more for ammo...if you can find it?? :D


    I also have the pt111 millenium pro in 9mm. It's a good small 9mm, but I don't care for the long trigger, or the accuracy. I have an xd40 subcompact for comparison....there is no comparison, but there is a price difference.

    My suggestions for 9mm in that price range would be the XD or XDm, CZ SP01 phantom, S&W M&P, or Glocks.

    Happy shooting!
     
  9. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    You can find S&W M&P's, Glocks, Springfield XD's and CZ's and others that will fill the bill. You can find 1911 styles too. My suggestion is to spend some time with research and then go and handle whichever models and calibers that appeal to you.

    Nine millimeter is an effective round, 45ACP is a more effective round. Try and fire some pistols in 45ACP and see what you are drawn to.
     
  10. Stormbilly

    Stormbilly New Member

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    As to which you caliber you decide on, I can't help you. That's something you'll have to weigh the pros and cons for.

    But if you decide to stick with 9mm (or .40 S&W for that matter), then I would highly recommend a CZ. They are fantastic guns for under $650. I have the P-01, which is their compact version of the SP-01, and it's a fantastic gun. To me, it has the most comfortable grip ergonomics outside of a 1911 that I've ever felt. Look into them if you're wanting a 9mm or .40.
     
  11. feedsasquatch

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    If you want to try out a .45 ACP, try a Glock. I just tried one this week, and I found it to be more manageable than the .40 S&W as far as recoil goes. It has more of a "push" than a snap. You can get a box of Winchester Whit boxes at Wally World for $30 (100 rounds)...
     
  12. field

    field New Member

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    ok there were 2 pistols i was eyeballing that were available at my gunshop... springfield XDM and Glock 34.

    both were about the same price. i liked the look and feel and simplicity of the glock34 but then i didnt like the rear sight quuuite as much as the XDM but then i dont really care for all of the extra safties on the XDm i know that sounds kind of stupid but just my opinion. i saw that the springfield comes in a big ol case and comes with a bunch of accessories but i dont know what the glock34 comes with.

    if any of you have owned or shot either of these please give me your input
     
  13. field

    field New Member

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    so as far as ammo price goes, what percent more expensive is .45 than 9mm per round?

    are you able to buy 100 round boxes of .45?
     
  14. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    About 50% more expensive.

    Whitebox of 9mm is $19.97 100rds, .45's are $38.97 100rds at walmart.

    .40's are $28.97 100rds.
     
  15. field

    field New Member

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    i looked at a taurus pt-92 which apparently is alot like the berretta m9 but i didnt really like the magazine release it wasnt really close enough to my thumb.

    so the guy was also telling me, 'you could get a glock 17 its about $90 less than the glock 34 you just dont have the ported slide deal or whatever.' so they did that to decrease recoil when firing but its louder also.

    exactly how much does it reduce recoil?
     
  16. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    It's a full size 9mm, not much recoil to speak of anyway. :)
     
  17. more forty fives

    more forty fives New Member

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    Well looks like every one gave you a good choice of gun's.Me I love the 1911 so I have to put in a plug for it you can get a good 1911 in 9mm.If you like the 9mm stay with it.After all you have to hit it to kill it! And if you can shoot a 9mm and hit with it why change?
     
  18. field

    field New Member

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    Ok yes they ARE on the pricy side approacing $1000 but if i just went and got one of the 9mm 1911 handguns what exactly am i paying for over a Glock for $600?
     
  19. feedsasquatch

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    My WM in KY charges $30 for both .40 and .45 100rds (I just got done buying 3 boxes of .45 ACP at $30 a box for 100rds a box). I've never seen them get 9mm in, but if they did, it would probably be between $20 and $22.
     
  20. SGT-MILLER

    SGT-MILLER New Member

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    Now I recognize your avatar.

    You are the dude with a youtube video of you tearing up a gopher target with your PT-111. Good shooting.

    :)