help me and my ".22 out of a jam"

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by RedWineKline, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    So I recently purchased a Colt M4 in .22, figured it would be some fun shooting that wont put too many holes in my college budget. (as small a target as it may be :) ) Gun looks great, dressed up the rails with a red-dot and forward grip and took it to camp.

    1st 1000 rounds went by with one or two jams (firing Winchester 333 hollow-points) and then it happened, jams, every 4-5 shots, before you ask, yes I cleaned it several times and oiled it... My friend also purchased the same model though with carry handle and no rails and his jammed every 2-3 rounds from the start... I have tried the other only other brand at the local gun shop near camp, which happened to be Remington thunderbolts, these will not even chamber or eject

    I figured I should get some input rather than damaging me or my rifle. I realize these are cheap-o rounds, though when it comes to quality .22 in a rimfire semi-auto, what should I try

    I should add that between my buddy and I we have about 12 years worth of M4-M16 cleaning/maintenance experience from the army, so the weapons are properly cleaned and cared for

    any advice is appreciated

    thank you, in advance
     
  2. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    CCI makes some good ammo, but that may not be the problem.

    I wish I could say for sure what the problem is though.

    Is this happening with all magazines? Have you tried other ammo?
     

  3. Fisherking

    Fisherking New Member

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    I was wondering if the amo is hanging up in the mag. Try cleaning it with break cleaner let dry thoughly and try some dry grafite.
    F.K.
     
  4. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    Will give it a try, thanks
     
  5. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    This was on of my initial thoughts, in the army our mags were junk half the time, but these are brand new and the problem persists between 4 different magazines, thank you for the advice man
     
  6. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    Waxed Ammo?

    I had a guy mention something about waxed ammunition working well, is this something you buy? or a do it at home job?
    furthermore, I cannot imagine the inside of my rifle looking too great after firing this stuff.:confused:
     
  7. SoL

    SoL New Member

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    so far as i know a lot of .22lr ammo is wax coated, I know about 50% of the random crap ive fed through my ruger have been wax coated I can't say that it's made a noticeably bigger mess or performed any worse.

    just for the record, .22LR M4 <----- god yes, that would be even more fun that my ruger!
     
  8. cpttango30

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    First things first Remington thunderbolts are knowns as Thunderturds on Rimfire central. It is true too they are the worst shooting bulk 22lr ammo out there. Might want to try Federal automatch slightly more but made for semiautos. Also look into shooting CCI Stingers they are a tad hotter and can make cycling the bolt faster.

    What are you lubing with? Grease, oil, combo or that nasty military CRAP CLP?
     
  9. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    Sig recommends CCI Mini Mag for their rim fires. At the range we recommend CCI Mini Mags for all auto-loaders with much success. The Mini Mags aren't the highest priced but tend to cycle the best in all firearms. The Mini Mag are by far the number 1 selling rim fire ammunition at the range.

    Good Luck. Joe
     
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  10. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I bought my daughter the same gun and had a ton of FTF and FTE issues.

    She wanted to go pink so I accommodated her with the installation of a Ergo pink hand grip.

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    Presto, the jamming issues completely gone!!! Maybe you should go pink?

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    Oh yea, at the same time of the grip swap thingie we ran out of Remington Thundercrap ammo. We bought some Blazer 22lr but I doubt that had anything to do with the jams.

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  11. Quentin

    Quentin New Member

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    Have you gone back to the Winchester 333 HP that worked great at the beginning? Remington Thunderbolts and Golden Bullet have trouble chambering in the tight Colt/Walther chamber. Doesn't work much better in the S&W M&P15-22 either. Many say the Win 333 works great and the Federal 550 36gr value pack at Walmart. Rem GB gave me a lot of trouble in my M4-22 so I switched to the Fed 550 and no more problems.

    Only real problem I've had with mine is the short front sight post but Umarex will send you a taller one for free if you call or email. This was on the basic carry handle model, they may already use the tall sight on your OPS model since it has a different rear sight. If you go with milspec height rear sights you'll likely need the tall post.
     
  12. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills New Member

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    I must say I heard these are prone to jamming issues. My vote is to ship it back to the repair station, but first try for a postage-paid shipping label from Colt?
     
  13. rodent.22

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    Break your upper open and run the spring screw in all the way with the Allen wrench provided, then buy a couple of bricks of Federal 550 bulk-pak at Wal-Mart. Run the first brick thru the rifle to smooth it out. This arm functions better the higher the round count. The chamber is TIGHT, it will not like any out-of-spec ammo. The Federal has the most consistant round size that I've found. Clean it good, making sure the chamber is cleaned real well. When loading your mags, make sure the rounds criss-cross when loaded. Spray the action after every magazine change. After using it for a brick or two your feed problems should go away....Best of Luck!! I am really enjoying mine!!!
     

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  14. kalgunner

    kalgunner New Member

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    Friends don't let Friends shoot Remington 22 lr. it's junk. CCI standard velocity or mini mags are very reliable,
     
  15. DrumJunkie

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    Most all 22's I've shot are a little picky about ammo. I've had terrible times with Winchester or Remington stuff. Federal bulk ammo I do really well with and it's about all I use anymore. The stuff just works. THe CCI Mini Mag is pretty good stuff and I have no problem using it. I just find it easier to get a few of those 550 bulk packs and I'm good to go for a good while.
     
  16. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    Hoppe's oil after cleaning with solution
     
  17. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    thx Canebrake but I think pink is not really my color
     
  18. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    Thanks

    Thanks all, great suggestions, friends and I gave the CCI mini mags a go and it seems to have solved all problems! I may still give some of the others a try for fun but CCI is probably my brand for .22 here on in


    I guess I will have to by a slingshot to get rid of all those thunderbolts I got lying around :D
     
  19. jakemaenius

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    Good to see your problems went away. Mine did the same exact thing with the remington ammo. It now shoots Federal bulk (both the blue and red box), spitfire, and CCI without a hitch.

    I tried to switch back to the remington once and the first shot was a FTF and FTE.
     
  20. RedWineKline

    RedWineKline New Member

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    Yeah! Get Some! Get Some!