Help identify this revolver

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by georg_pederson, Jun 7, 2013.

  1. georg_pederson

    georg_pederson New Member

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    Hi,

    I inherited a large handgun collection from my father recently. I've been able to identify every one of them except this one. There is no make, model, or serial info. I asked a friend to look it over, too, just in case my eyes missed something.

    Anyone recognize this? How can I find out more about it?

    Thanks in advance,
    Georg
     

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  2. jpattersonnh

    jpattersonnh Active Member

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    The trigger gives it away. Even their .22 9 shot revolvers have a similar trigger w/ exposed parts.
     
  3. georg_pederson

    georg_pederson New Member

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    Thanks! It's definitely H+R top break .38 S+W based on the page linked by jpattersonnh.

    Any rough idea of value?
     
  4. Bob Wright

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    I'm guessing its not an H&R, as H&R usually had an identifying address line on the barrel flat.

    My guess is a Spanish or Belgian copy of an H&R.

    Bob Wright
     
  5. hiwall

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    I think Bob may be correct. Look at the back of the cylinder(where the ammo goes in). Is there any small marks? (proof marks) If so Bob is correct.
     
  6. sbeezy

    sbeezy New Member

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    I have one of these but it's broken. To give an idea of value, it would cost more to get it fixed than what I'd get selling it.
     
  7. towboater

    towboater Well-Known Member

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    Value aint much. Check gunbroker.
     
  8. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    One POSSIBLE explanation- your revolver may have been reblued. If so, during the polishing prior to rebluing it was not uncommon for exposed markings to be buffed away- especially the fine stamping along the top of the barrel rib.

    Two more spots to check-remove the grips, and check for a serial number stamped on the SIDE of the frame near butt- covered up by the grips. The other- the underside of the top strap, covered by the cylinder. To remove cylinder- open revolver, hold latch up all the way, turn cylinder opposite of its normal rotation, and it will unscrew and come out. Then look closely at underside of top strap for a serial number.

    Some marks were usually on the rear end of the cylinder, and bottom of trigger guard- but they are very exposed to buffing.

    Value on the H&Rs and Iver Johnson style top breaks seem to run around $75 to $150, depending heavily on condition.
     
  9. jpattersonnh

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    Some of these H&R's are ID'd by the grips. Any defining stamp are located on the inside of the frame infront of the cylinder above the trigger.
     
  10. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I am going to say if it has no markings, it is probably a Chicago Arms model top break revolver.
     
  11. nitestalker

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    That is a Merdian Arms . They were sold by Sears & Robuck as AJ Aubrey marked handguns. Sears sold these around the turn of the 20th century for about $10 dollars.
    Current value in 90 % condition is $150 . This gun has had a very poor refinish the value would be less than $100 dollars. The very unique front sight is curious only to AJ Aubrey handguns.:)
     
  12. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    Nope, if it was a Merdian Arms it would say so, all of mine do.............
     
  13. nitestalker

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    Merdian Arms made firearms for the mail order business under other names. AJ Aubrey was a popular economical handgun made by Merdian.:)

    It would be unlikely that you would have all models and types of Merdian Arms ever produced.:confused:
     
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  14. bigjim

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steripicupload.jpg

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iver_Johnson

    Jim

    I would guess it is the New Model made between 1909 & 1941.

     
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  15. rifleman1

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    i think it might be a U.S. gun company revolver maybe?
     
  16. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Nitestalker has good eyes. And YES- that is an AJ Aubrey made by Meriden (not Meridian). Meriden was founded by Sears in Meriden Ct. They hired AJ Aubrey to design guns for them, and many were marketed under his name.

    The front sight is unique, and is an identifying feature. Here is one of the references distinguishing between a "Secret Service" revolver made by Meriden, and another made by IJ-

    meriden revolver.jpg

    Here is some good info on Meriden and AJ Aubrey.
    http://www.meridenfirearms.com/pistol.html
     
  17. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    I Concede......................
     
  18. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Collecting firearms and doing appraisals of gun collections for over 50 years you must learn something. It is so unfortunate that people inherit family firearms thinking they have a rare Merwin & Hulbert. You have to explain that it is an AJ Aubrey ala Sears & Robuck.:(