HCQ Lowers Covid Deathrate

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  1. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Imagine that!


    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/n...oquine-lowers-covid-19-death-rate/5365090002/

    A Henry Ford Health System study shows the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine helps lower the death rate of COVID-19 patients, the Detroit-based health system said Thursday.

    Officials with the Michigan health system said the study found the drug “significantly” decreased the death rate of patients involved in the analysis.

    The study analyzed 2,541 patients hospitalized among the system’s six hospitals between March 10 and May 2 and found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine died while 26% of those who did not receive the drug died.
     
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  2. Gatoragn

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  3. ellis36

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    "CNN)A surprising new study found that the controversial antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine helped patients better survive in the hospital."

    It's only surprising to the naysayers (we all know who they are) who jumped on the political aspect of this from the beginning.

    A development that was denied simply because President Trump made his remarks about it early on and everyone just had to prove him wrong.

    AND....It's CNN (not gateway pundit!) so it has to be correct! :D:D:D

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  4. manta

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    NIH halts clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine
    Study shows treatment does no harm, but provides no benefit


    What
    A clinical trial to evaluate the safety and effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine for the treatment of adults hospitalized with coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has been stopped by the National Institutes of Health. A data and safety monitoring board (DSMB) met late Friday and determined that while there was no harm, the study drug was very unlikely to be beneficial to hospitalized patients with COVID-19. After its fourth interim analysis the DSMB, which regularly monitors the trial, recommended to the National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI), part of NIH, to stop the study. NHLBI halted the trial immediately.
     
  5. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Bbbbbuuttt, I thought CNN, MSNBC, trumped all other sources? :confused:



    Apparently the NIH stopped testing because they knew CNN was going to report HCQ works. :p
     
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  6. manta

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    For every positive study you fine , i could find a negative one. It could be years until we get a definitive yes or no.

    Doctors at Michigan Medicine, the University of Michigan’s health system, remain steadfast in their decision not to use hydroxychloroquine on coronavirus patients, which they stopped using in mid-March after their own early tracking of the treatment found little benefit to patients with some serious side effects.

    Michigan’s largest system of hospitals, Southfield-based Beaumont Health, also stopped using the decades-old anti-malarial drug as a coronavirus treatment after deciding it was not effective in treating its COVID-19 patients.

    St. Joseph Mercy health system has also backed away from the treatment. The system has St. Joseph hospitals in Ann Arbor, Chelsea, Howell, Livonia and Pontiac, as well as the Mercy Health hospitals in Grand Rapids, Muskegon and Shelby.

    A recent United Kingdom study evaluating hydroxychloroquine in hospitalized patients with coronavirus was stopped after preliminary analysis found it didn’t have any benefit. About 26% of patients in the trial using the drug died, compared with about 24% receiving the usual care, according to the Oxford University study.
     
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  7. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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  8. ellis36

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    For every positive study you fine , i could find a negative one. [ /QUOTE

    And the big question is..why the burning desire to do that????? Why not just let it play out.

    NI apparently has it all whipped due to not only the brilliance of their government but the intelligence of their citizens to "follow the rules." If only the rest of us would let you tell us what we're doing wrong!

    Wait!!!! You do tell us what we're doing wrong every F***** day! We're just to damn stupid to recognize the astute advice that's offered to us from you. It must be frustrating to be so smart and not be appreciated! If I were you I would give up on us.

    I'll even help!

    HCQ is BAD! HCQ will never work! Trump was wrong to say so! Trump is just stupid! NI had it all figured out from the beginning! Trump is dumb! Trump loves Russia! manta was right all along!!!

    There! Now are you happy? :D:D:D

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  9. manta

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    Because i like to look at both sides, and to form a view.

    Can't argue with that, something we agree on. ;)
     
  10. ellis36

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    [QUOTE="manta, post: 2234856, member: 23645"
    Can't argue with that, something we agree on. ;)[/QUOTE]

    There you go!! Feel better?

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  11. primer1

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    Follow the dollar. One treatment gives big money to big pharma, one does not.
     
  12. Ghost1958

    Ghost1958 Well-Known Member

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    Bingo. It's always the money .
     
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  13. ellis36

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    Money and ding Trump at the same time. Twofer!

    ellis
     
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    Yet my neighbor tells me it helped her brother. Six days after treatment he tested negative and walked out of the hospital.

    It doesn't really matter if Biden's elected a fool proof vaccine will be released a few weeks after his term starts and everything will go back to normal. Birds will start chirping, flowers will start blooming and love will be everywhere. Join me in a round of Kumbaya.
     
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  15. ellis36

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    And the first Executive Order he signs will be that condoms are required for everyone in public view until further notice.

    (He saw the word "prophylactic" used and thought that's what it meant!)

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  16. G66enigma

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    That's certainly part of the "big picture."

    And I wouldn't be surprised that that aspect, along with budget impacts and the fact of the current Admin's relative animosity toward (disregard of?) the "big government" healthcare stuff, turns out to be a great driver of many such decisions.

    Hard to know, for certain. Haven't seen many "smoking gun" proofs to show they're swayed this way or that for explicit reasons.

    Anything's possible. $Trillions along with tens of thousands of "rice bowls" are at stake, long-term.
     
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  17. Gatoragn

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    From the Wall Street Journal

    By , and
    Updated June 16, 2020 10:39 am ET

    Six months into the coronavirus crisis, there’s a growing consensus about a central question: How do people become infected?

    It’s not common to contract Covid-19 from a contaminated surface, scientists say. And fleeting encounters with people outdoors are unlikely to spread the coronavirus.

    Instead, the major culprit is close-up, person-to-person interactions for extended periods. Crowded events, poorly ventilated areas and places where people are talking loudly—or singing, in one famous case—maximize the risk.
     
  18. Gatoragn

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    A peer reviewed study no less.

    https://dcwhispers.com/breaking-new-peer-reviewed-study-finds-hcq-reduces-covid-19-death-rate-by-71/

    This latest study, which involved more than 2000 Michigan-area Covid-19 patients that were given hydroxychloroquine within 48 hours of hospital admission (unlike other studies which did not administer the drug until patients were already critical / near death) found that the drug vastly improved the mortality rate outcomes of those patients by an astonishing 71%.
    To date the media has said almost nothing regarding this study likely due to the troubling implications of how aggressively a cheap and effective drug like HCQ has been so vilified.
    How many lives were lost because of biased reporting and political posturing?
    Noted New York Urologic Oncology Expert and Robotic Surgeon Dr. David Samadi put it this way:
     
  19. partdeux

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    HCQ does nothing once the virus gets to critical stage. It has to be administered EARLY, and it needs to be combined with Zinc to be most effective. The first published study was so badly formulated, it had to be retracted. There's also the issue of why virtually nobody receiving it as a lupus patient has tested positive for CV19
     
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  20. manta

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    Lupus foundation of America Are People with Lupus Protected Against COVID-19?
    There is no evidence that taking hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is effective in preventing a person from contracting the coronavirus (COVID-19). People with lupus should follow the guidance of their doctor and the safety guidelines being issued by the CDC.