Have I overlooked any good 9mm DA/SA range/HD guns

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by RichNH, Sep 3, 2013.

  1. RichNH

    RichNH New Member Supporter

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    I've in the market for my first handgun. I took my CCW training about 6 months ago but my job has had me traveling pretty much constantly since then so I haven't had a chance to get to the range.

    My plan is to get a range gun/home defense weapon with which I can practice my shooting fundamentals until I feel comfortable enough to start carrying. At that point I'll be in the market again, probably for a compact or sub-compact carry gun.

    I've been reading and researching for quite a while now and I've decided I'd like my first weapon (and probably my first carry weapon) to be a DA/SA pistol in 9mm, preferably with a decocking lever. I've been putting together a list of possible guns with the intention of going to the range and renting two of them at a time and putting 50 rounds through each in a sort of shoot-off to decide which I prefer, then next trip comparing the winner to another rental from the list.

    Here is the list I have compiled as possibilities so far. I am looking for suggestions on any good choices I may have overlooked. If you want to make a strong argument for a gun that doesn't meet all my criteria, feel free. I'm certainly not an expert and am trying to keep an open mind.

    Here is the updated list based on feedback so far (thanks all). I've grouped them by frame material and sorted by cost (lowest to highest) as best I can determine (some were MSR others quotes off the web.)

    Polymer Frame:

    Ruger P95
    CZ P09 Duty
    Beretta PX4 Storm (Model G)
    Taurus 24/7 G2 (Striker fired)
    Sig Sauer SP2022
    FN FNX-9
    H&K P30L
    H&K USP

    Alloy or Steel Frame:

    Stoeger Cougar
    Bersa Thunder 9 Pro (thumb safety no mention of decocking?)
    Beretta 92FS
    CZ 75BD
    Sig Sauer P229
    Sig Sauer P226
     
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  2. TX45

    TX45 New Member

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    I suggest the Taurus 24/7 G2 9mm. I have the 24/7 G2 9mm and the 24/7 G2 .45. They have DA/SA trigger & a decocker safety. They're excellent guns for the range and for home defense.
     

  3. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Here's some things I like about your post. You did your homework beforehand and gave us some options. You admit you have limited range time but plan on holding and shooting some before you buy. Essentially you are being an informed buyer, and for that I applaud you sir. Beats the h*ll outta those "what gun should I buy" posts.

    The best I can think of is the Beretta Storm. They make all sorts of different models. Full size, compacts, sub compacts. The larger magazines of the full size will work in all of them. They are excellent guns which I rented once or twice. Certainly don't have as much trigger time as others, but I was extremely happy with the shooting. I rented the full size. The gun is inherently accurate and I didn't have any failures. That range keeps their rentals extremely dirty, too. If you get a subcompact, and if you fall in love with it, you won't have to buy another gun strictly for carry later on (unless you want to of course).

    My only complaint on the Storm is the safety/decocker is rather sharply edged. I feel like it might hurt after a lot of use in a single range session. YMMV, of course.

    There's also the Bersa Thunder 9, and Taurus makes one or two models that fit your parameters. I have zero experience with those specifically but I do own a pistol from each company which makes me not really want to recommend them to anyone. But if you're on a tighter budget they can be made to work. Both companies offer good warranties.

    Good luck.
     
  4. mdauben

    mdauben New Member

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    You've done your homework well and I honestly don't think you could go wrong with any of your choices. Personally, I'd probably chose the CZ or SIG but that's entirely personal preference. Try to handle them all and shoot them if you can to see which works best for you.
     
  5. CrazedJava

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    The Ruger P95 has a reputation for reliability and it won't break the bank. I own the P89 which is the older model and it's been a good handgun. Put it through the ringer and it just keeps firing. It's not going to be the most accurate handgun on your list but it will do a reasonable job of putting holes in bad guys even if I wouldn't do competition shooting with it.

    The Beretta 92 series are great for accuracy. It is still the most accurate 9mm I have fired. Very nice stock trigger, not sure about long term reliability but keep up with your maintenance and it should be fine. I hear a lot of crap about Beretta's being inaccurate but from what stories I could actually trace back it's always well worn military guns shooting crappy surplus ammo.

    A cheaper option to the SIG P226 is the 2022. Can be found for $450 to $500. Very good gun, accurate, and have known many owners who love them. Don't know anyone who regrets it as a purchase. I quite enjoyed my range time with it and would seriously consider it for a SD gun. Though if you have the means, I doubt you'll regret the P226 either.
     
  6. DeltaF

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    I like the Sig and the CZ you picked. I noticed you didn't include the Glock 19 on your list. Was that on purpose or did you just overlook it? Also, the Sig P229 isnt as prone to the occasional rust issues that the P226 has because its stainless. But it's a little top heavy compared to the 226 and has a longer barrel.

    Good research. Now to shoot them all and make the final decision!
     
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  7. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    He said he wants a DA/SA with a safety/decocker. You musta missed that part.
     
  8. DeltaF

    DeltaF New Member

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    Yes I did. I'm posting on 48 hours at work with no sleep. My eyes are starting to cross and reading on these threads is all that's keeping me awake.
     
  9. JonM

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    I prefer a grip safety to a decocker. Check out the xdm series. To me having a gun that won't go off unless properly gripped trumps the long da pull.
     
  10. aandabooks

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    I don't have it yet but the FNX-9 fits your criteria. Supposed to be trading for one tonight and will try to get to the range in the next day or two. Maybe I'll have more input for you then.
     
  11. JW357

    JW357 New Member

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    Its cool. I understand. Been there, done that. Hope you get some rest soon.
     
  12. boatme98

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    Nice list, there. The only caveat being the Berretta 92. It's a good gun but it's rather large compared to the others on the list. About the size of a 1911.
    I don't think you can go wrong with any on the list, although I'm partial to Sigs and Rugers.:)
    I'd love to have a modern CZ and a UK.
    Oh, my edc is a Sig P239. Carrying it about six years now. I love it.
    Back up and "dress gun" is a ss Colt Govt. 380, although I think I should change that so I have two that operate the same.
    I favor decockers over safteys.
    Keep us posted.
     
  13. Cshooter

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    I would also look at the CZ P07 or P09 Duty. Very comfortable pistols, shoot great. You can swap out the safety for the decocker or vice/versa.
     
  14. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    I own a SIG P229r and its great. I was considering a Stoeger Cougar before I bought my 1911.
     
  15. indy36

    indy36 New Member

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    I second the Sig 2022 and the FN. Please shoot both.
     
  16. 1911love

    1911love New Member

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    I own a USP .45, I say USP or Sig. I don't have any exp with CZ, so I can't say anything about them.

    I own an M9A1 and have shot a P95, I like both, but they have a slide mounted safety/decock. For me that's a no-no for carry, I grew up on the frame mounted safety, 1911 as in my handle.

    One you didn't mention was an HK P30, although I'm not sure if they make a Variant 1 model. In HK wonderland Variant 1 is a DA/SA with a frame mounted safety/decock lever. I feel it's the best HK semi-auto setup bc you can carry hammer down with safety off(most carry this way) or you can carry cocked and locked like a 1911(hammer back with safety engaged).

    Good luck and have fun!
     
  17. KJG67

    KJG67 New Member

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    I can vouch for the p226, CZ75B, FNX, and the CZ RAMI (if you want awesomeness in a sub-compact with DA/SA;)).

    I would put any of the CZs mentioned here or above up (P07, P09 Duty, 75D PCR) against the p226 (I own one, so not bashing it), especially for the price, where you can probably come close to getting a full size CZ and a RAMI (or other compact/sub-compact) for almost the same price as a p226 (depending upon model). If you end up going with CZ, be sure to compare prices at www.damascusgunshop.com They have great customer service, fair prices, and have had short wait times for backorders.

    It really comes down to you getting to a range and shooting each of them and see what feels best for you and which is most accurate in your hands as you said. They are all fine choices you've made.
     
  18. RichNH

    RichNH New Member Supporter

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    Thanks all for your suggestions and kind words. It appears that even limiting myself to the full-size models for now I have quite a few more pistols to try out. I'll update my list when I've had a chance to check out the specs on your suggestions.
     
  19. northeastflorida86

    northeastflorida86 New Member

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    To me the Sig sp2022 is an amazing handgun.
     
  20. jjones45

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    You can add the fnx line of pistols as well. There are lots of great guns in this category.