Have a coyote problem, need advice.

Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by DarinCraft, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    I am having a big problem with coyotes trying to corner my dogs, eating my cats and now have started in with the horses.

    They only come at night which limits my weaponry to two of my shotguns. I go after them with 12ga 00 and a light, but half the time as soon as I get close enough for the light to hit them, they're gone. One round, maybe.

    So what do I need to do to get more than one at a time. I have an AR, 10/22, several shotguns and a 30-06:D

    I am entertaining buying one of those cheapo $300 night vision scopes and throwing it on the 10/22 or buying a bait kit for daytime/dusk hunting and getting 4 buck. But what I think might work probably won't, so I need some help.
     
  2. Cory2

    Cory2 New Member

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    Well, when i was younger some coyote's killed one of my cats. I talked around to people and a game warden suggested i get a .22lr and pop them when i see them (they are considered pests here so no tags or anything necesary).

    What i would suggest doing is going hunting. Either try to find their den and kill them all or bait them with meat and wait. If you go for the first option you might want to bring your dogs with you or a couple of friends.

    I don't know what kind of terrain we are talking about here and my suggestions may be useless if you live in big wide open spaces. You can also find some electronic noise makers that alledgedly sound like wounded rabits and such you can place somewhere and leave there to atract the yotes then put them down.

    The 10 22 or the ar would probably be your best bet as semi auto is the way to go for inflicting massive casualties quickly.
     

  3. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    The area I am in is flat and wide open. Their den...I don't have the first clue how/where to find it. Thanks for the advice, I'll look into the bait options.
     
  4. nwrednk

    nwrednk New Member

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    Darincraft, you gave no hint...

    On what state you live in or what the current laws in your area cover! In
    north Idaho, as long as you are protecting humans, livestock & pets... you
    can legally kill a pest,(but the courts are still "out to lunch" about wolves)!
    We have 2 recent high profile encounters in the press recently about
    encounters with wolves by women in a rural area,(search the Spokesman-
    Review) for the details. And read the december American Hunter about
    coyotes! Ten years ago a friend of mine in the Post Falls/Coeur d Alene area
    lost his cocker spaniel to coyotes & I provided him with an old Remmington
    autoloader loaded with #4 buckshot. A few days later he killed an adult
    female with it, but the male & female pups that traveled with her left the
    area! (I had warned him about letting his dog out after dark unsupervised
    on his 10 acres, but he chose to ignore that warning)!:eek: Our dogs are
    protected by a 6 foot fence & a dog door into our house as sometimes
    larger creatures like mountain lions & bears are not "strangers to our area"!
    AND, though not "lethal", skunks also wander our area when their #s reach
    a "high in population"!:eek:
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    live traps a 22lr firearm and some raw meat rabbit works best. that way if you trap a pet you can release if its a yote...
     
  6. willshoum

    willshoum New Member

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    Wiley Coyote's

    Lock up your cats and dogs, Then set out a tape recorder with a squealing rabbit. And around this area set out a dozen or so leg traps. Check your local laws on ridding your land of these useless critters. If any are caught, it makes killing a whole lot easier. And if you don't have a recorder use bait, and set traps. Good luck and Happy Hunting.:)
     
  7. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Not sure why you would chose the 22 over the 223 as a night hunter. I have wanted one of these but don't have any need for it. I just want it. :D

    ATN Aries 410 Night Vision Rifle Scope NVWSM41010 FREE S&H NVWSM41010. ATN Night Vision, ATN Riflescopes.
     

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  8. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Will a 22 kill a yote. Sure it will if you are close enough. I shot one at maybe 15 feet and it ran for over 100 yards before dropping dead.

    get a spot light with a red filter on it. Look for the eyes and aim between them.

    You could also try a Laser Genitics flashlight. Careful with it though as if you hit a yote in the eyes they are gone.

    Results for laser genetics flashlights - Sorted by Best Match, on Page 1 (20 Items) - OpticsPlanet

    Night Hunting For Coyotes - Techniques and Gear For Hunting Coyotes at Night

    Go check out AL's web site. Varmint Al's Hunting Page

    Al is a great guy and one hell of a yote hunter.

    Also look up Randy Anderson, Less Johnson, and Fred Eichler.

    Check your local and state laws to see if baiting is legal. If it is. get you some chicken livers, chicken, and other animal parts allow to rot a little throw some sweet corn in the mix then about 100 yards from a window put it out. Then build a bench inside the window and set your gun up and sit near the window. Check often and when you see a yote slowly open the window and shoot that dirty rotten SOB.

    The only good yote is the dead one.

    You can also build a cheap ecaller from varmint al's web page. It works great and I have made one. Or you can go buy cheap mouth calls or a cheaper ecallers.
     
  9. Fisherking

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    What we do in the winter is dig a pit in the snow fill with bait and get to where you will be hunting from before light and as they come out of the pit shoot them. I would imagine this would work in milder climes with digging the pit in the dirt.
    My 2 cents F.K.
     
  10. hogrider

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    In my part of the state of Texas, all you have to do is let the word out you have a coyote problem and you'll get people bangin on your door. Seriously there are people who already have the night time equipment to help take care of your problem. Unless you plan on doing a lot a night time hunting, I would let someone else clean up your problem rather than spend the money for a night scope. Plus, I don't like the idea of staying up all night calling and searching. That's just me.
     
  11. dunerunner

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    The night scope is $600. I just paid a trapper $120 to trap the raccoon that were creating a problem at my house.

    I would use the bait, get the scope and at least have some fun!! Watch your livestock, coyote get very brave this time of year, especially after the snow flies.
     
  12. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    Man, you guys are awesome. There is a ton of great info here I'm gonna have to process.
    First, I had no idea hunting coyotes was something people would want to do. I never thought about having someone do it for me. I live on ten acres that is surrounded by several thousand, which is where the bastards are coming from.

    Second, I was thinking the 22 because of the report, I thought it would get the job done. As you al know I'm not really that experienced with this.

    Tango I totally agree I'd love to kill them, and hang em up on the fence as a warning.

    My dogs are locked up, bit this is happening in the early evening when they're still out.

    Thanks again guys.
     
  13. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Darin,

    I would also love to have one of the ATN Night Vision units as was shown above. But they are a little salty but I would still love to have one. I have an older model 4X III Gen. ATN Scope. It is good but heavy. In Tennessee where I live lights, NV and Thermal are not allowed at night to predator hunt. Wish they would change it but I guess it is because there would be those that would use it for poaching. Anyway I hunt our west on our lease and do a lot of night coyote and pig hunting. One way we kill them is by a Fox Pro Call and the other is we plant a gut pile out in a meadow withing 200 yards of the camp. Then we set down and visit and coyote hunt. Now you are wondering how we do that. Well by the gut pile we have a metal fence post that I attach a Dakota Alarm Sending Unit (The Black Box) to the post. By the campfire I have a Dakota Receiver it looks like a Walkie Talkie and is portable on AA batteries. When the alarm notifies us that something is at the gut pile we sneak over to the fence and look through our NV or use a Spotlight with a Red Lens. The red lens as mentioned before above causes the coyotes eyes to glow. And POW!!!!! Also if you kill the coyote drag it around and leave the carcass in the area. Most of the time it will be a deterrent since most of the coyotes in the immediate area belong to the same family. Juts a thought but I guess some would call it lazy coyote hunting but the rancher wants them gone also!
     
  14. jpattersonnh

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    I hunt them on a clear moonlite night. My scoped 527 or AR, both in .223 does the job. No special scope needed.
     
  15. orangello

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    I have no experience hunting coyotes, but it would seem to me that some surveillance is in order to establish a pattern of their activities to better exterminate them. Maybe some game cameras or inexpensive NV surveillance cameras would be helpful.

    traps?

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  16. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Darin, Have you thought of having a meet and greet of FTF members? If your local laws allow.
     
  17. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    OK, called the Department of Fish and Game just because there were a lot of good ideas here.

    I can deprevate the coyotes only if they are on my property and a nuisance. I can "lure" them onto my property with artificial bait, calls, recordings or lures. I cannot use meat of any kind to bait them. I cannot cross onto another property for any reason, because it now becomes "hunting" and I then need permits, licensing, lead free ammo, etc.

    When the animal is "destroyed" I then need to bury the carcass immediately and I cannot save any part, otherwise I am either baiting and/or hunting.

    I also cannot use a night vision scope or set up anything that looks like I am laying in wait. LOL...California bureaucracy, I love it
     
  18. Cory2

    Cory2 New Member

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    It's only illegal if you get caught.... just sayin'
     
  19. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    hehehehe....lol
     
  20. dunerunner

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    If you shoot them and dispose of them (bury) on your property, how would DFG ever know you used a night sight, baited them with meat or were storing your rifle and ammo next to the window that just happens to look out over the baited area?

    You could always relocate them to Sacramento, where they will feel right at home! :D