Has anyone used Blue Wonder Gun Bluing?

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by TheOldMan, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. TheOldMan

    TheOldMan New Member

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    I'm looking for feedback from anyone who's used this product before and would like to know how it worked for them. I took on a project that should have been a simple touch up for a fella and it's turned into a major PITA for me. I am not set up for hot bluing but none of the traditional cold blues are working for me either. BC Super Blue, and Oxpho Blue are not giving me the deep dark finish that I need for this firearm (model 36 S&W)..

    I placed an order for the Blue Wonder this morning and I'm hoping it lives up to it's hype so I can get this firearm back to it's owner soon.

    As a side note, all other projects that I've used cold bluing products on have turned out beautifully. Maybe it's the steel?:confused:
     
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  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I have not tried it, but the video looks promising.
    Please keep us updated. Thanks.
     

  3. TheOldMan

    TheOldMan New Member

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    Sure will.. Ordered today from MidwayUSA.
     
  4. NwGun

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    For what it is, (not hot bluing) it is amazing!
    The better the polishing/buff job to the metal, the better it looks when applied.
     
  5. 7.62 Man

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    I tried it on an AK receiver, it went on slow and spotty.
    I have found better results with the BC Super Blue, but I don't use there directions.
    I heat the CLEAN parts to be blued by boiling the parts in water.
    Then putting the parts in a zip-lock freezer bag & dumping the whole bottle of BC Super Blue in with the parts, zip it up and shake.
    This makes it cover fast with no spots or streaks.
    Repeat if needed back to water until hot, then back to the bag.
    When you get a good dark finish put in the water reheat then put in new bag and do a soaking spray with a good gun oil like Remington's Rem-oil.
    Seal the bag and let sit in warm place (I used the back window of an old car sitting in the sun) for 24hrs.
     
  6. TheOldMan

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    Got the kit yesterday .. I'll be working on the gun this weekend and will post results (before and after photo's) The video does make this product look very good.. We'll see :rolleyes:
     
  7. NwGun

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    Just remember that any flaws in the metal will remain.:D
     
  8. TheOldMan

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    Not going to post any pictures but to say the least, I am not impressed with this product. It is more labor intensive than they let on and the finish could not be made uniform. The client seemed happy with the results but I was not. The flats of the frame including the side plate ended up with a rainbow effect to the finish that I could not get around after three seperate attempts. The rest of the firearm did turn out very well and the overall color matched the factory finish pretty well.

    I'm just not happy with the results or the product and sent off an email to the company for feedback. I will drop the money to hot blue before going this route again on any firearm such as this one.
     
  9. cpttango30

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    I was looking at it the videos make it look so simple. Blue wonder hasn't gotten any good reviews yet.

    Have you tried Brownells 44/40 cold blue? This is the strongest of the cold blues from what I am told.

    With oxpho-blue I had to keep going over and over and over. I stopped at 45 applications and still wasn't happy with the look of the finish on my gun.

    My method was sand metal with 150, 200, 400, 600 in a shoe shine pattern on barrel. Clean with 90% alcohol then a spray with brake clean allow to dry. I would hold barrel at chamber end and wet cotton balls with the liquid oxpho-blue and rub till arm hurt. Allow to set for 5 minutes to rest arm then buff with 0000 steelwool. Then do it all over again. I spent DAYS doing this I thought I was going to get tennis elbow and carpel tunnel. I am to the point of sending it off to have it hot blued.
     
  10. TheOldMan

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    Haven't tried the Brownells 44/40. I've always had good luck using BC Super Blue and I've got a full bottle of the Oxpho-Blue so I'll get my arms ready and give it a try on another project gun that I've got. My prep work was never the issue for me since I'm extremely meticulous in that regards. I'm set up for media blasting and use both glass beads and aluminum oxide depending on the base finish I'm needing to work off of.

    Bottom line for me really is to get set up for hot bluing in the shop. I've got plenty of ventilation so it's just a matter of putting my wifes mind at ease working with the potentially explosive chemicals.

    May or may not get a response from the folks at Blue Wonder (did get an auto reply from the Vice Pres. of the company though). If I don't, no harm no foul, I'll never promote their product nor buy it again. We'll see how that goes and I'll report anything that I get back from them.

    Thanks for your input Tango..
     
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  11. 7.62 Man

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    Couldn't figure out how to edit so I'll repost.
    Here is what it looks like after only three coats. :eek:

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    I'm sure Super Blue will work just as good with this method.;)
     
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  12. huffmanite

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    I've used Blue Wonder for cold blue a fair number of times.....consider it a pretty good product. Yep, I've had some poor results with it when redoing the finish on a receiver....sometimes the metallurgy in them makes it difficult to get a nice even finish.

    Prep with it more tedious than with Brownell's Oxpho Blue, which I also consider a good product.

    Last time I used the blue wonder, had a Ruger 77 rifle rebarreled by a elderly retired machinest who's worked on guns for well over 40 years as a hobby and sideline. He'd returned the barreled action to me and in a few days I'd dropped in on him to show him the finished rifle that I'd used Blue Wonder on to do the barrel.....original blue on the Ruger receiver too good to mess with...had only done the barrel. We are outside in daylight when I showed him the rifle. He's holding rifle, turning it over and etc., to examine it and he has a quizzical look on his face. Finally, he asked me, "was this barrel already blued when I installed it?" Now this gent is approaching 80 years old, and his memory not the best. I chuckled and replied I'd used Blue Wonder on the barrel. He smiled, nodded his head.....said, "looks good.."
     
  13. TheOldMan

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    Most folks I've talked to locally are pointing to metallurgy.. I might be willing to give it another shot on some barreled actions I have laying around just to make sure..
     
  14. huffmanite

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    TheOldMan,

    Give the Blue Wonder another try.

    Check Blue Wonder website for tips/instructions on its application and carefully follow them. If you have one of their old kits, instructions may differ from those on website.

    Prep is important and do heat up the metal till its almost too hot to handle before applying Blue Wonder. After you have done the application and used the Blue Wonder developer for the amount of time necessary to work, make sure you coat metal with oil. I live in a high humidity area and have found it necessary to reapply oil over a several day period. Oil seems to be soaked up by the metal and blue wonder on it. Chemical process will still be going on and you'll be wiping off some form of oxidation. Don't worry about the oxidation, it will stop and you should be left with a nice blue finish that I've found to be durable and doesn't rub/wear off like other blues I've tried.

    I've also tried the Birchwood Casey blue, formula 40/44, Tetra, G66 gun blue, Brownell's Oxpho Blue and maybe one or two others. Of these, was only satisfied with the Oxpho Blue, which I prefer to use for small parts. But have done some barrels with it that turned out nice. Had same problem on receivers though that I had with Blue Wonder.

    By the way, I live near Houston, Tx, where Blue Wonder Products first developed.....have spoken to its founder/inventor a few times at local guns shows that he sometimes has a booth at to demonstrate his products. Guy can put on quite a demostration of his gun blue. You will find the Blue Wonder cleaner, used in the metal prep, thats in your kit to be a pretty good bore cleaner. Also, good for removing rust on gun metal too without harming surrounding blue.
     
  15. TheOldMan

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    Thanks huff for your input.. I do intend to give the blue wonder another try.
     
  16. sarge257

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    The way to use Oxpho blue is after the first coating with a cotton ball,use 0000 steel wool to rub the blue in. There is something about the steel wool metal that makes the Oxpho blue react and settle into the rifle metal. I usually only have to go over a rifle or shotgun no more than 4 or 5 times using the steel wool each time I put a new coat on before I get a real black-blue color and it is finished. I let it set over night and then the next day go over the blue with a oily rag (gun oil) and that takes the light colored skrud off and what is left is a deep blue back.
    Sarge
     
  17. TheOldMan

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    Thanks Sarge, I'll give that a try.

    A friend of mine has decided that he'd like me to try the Blue Wonder on an old Ruger MkII he's got. Testing out whether it is the metal that made the difference. I'm not taking the metal down just doing touch up.. We'll see how that goes..

    More to come
     
  18. cpttango30

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    I will take The Stars for $200 Alex...
     
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    Alex: What is Rigel?

    It is also the 6th brightest start in the night sky.