Has Anyone Hunted With a Cap and Ball Revolver?

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  1. 007BondJamesBond007

    007BondJamesBond007 New Member

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    Has anyone used a cap and ball revolver to hunt with and what did you get? Small game or Deer?
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Not legal for deer in many states.
     

  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Not that I am going to hunt with a Cap and Ball Revolver but can you please tell me why it's not legal? Just asking my usual questions and trying to learn. :eek:
     
  4. c3shooter

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    lack of power. There is a minimum size for rifles, minimum caliber for muzzleloading rifles, and a ball and cap revolver was felt to be too low in energy to insure a clean kill.
     
  5. trip286

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    007, check youtube. I was thinking about getting a walker repro, and came across some videos of it being used in hunting. I've also found some articles and write ups on it.
     
  6. Hawg

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    Here you cant even have a handgun on you while hunting. They will assume since you have it on you that you intended to hunt with it and will fine you accordingly.
     
  7. thdrduck

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    DNR only has limits on minimum cal. and barrel length and they even count the length of the cylinder as part of the barrel on revolvers. I have Remington Army and would carry it only to finish off a deer in the event my rifle shot didn't do the job. Must take that back... Must be a center fire cartridge of more then .22 cal.

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  8. Sniper03

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    Never hunted deer with one. But have hunted groundhogs with a Navy model 36 Cal. on many occassions just for fun. Did good job and was a blast! ":D" I suppose you could hunt deer with the 44 cal Black Powder Revolver is your state law permits it. I have a 44 New Army but never hunted with it. I guess I have never checked on that in Tennessee! But probably would still use my Thomson Hawken 50 Cal Rifle for deer.

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  9. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Thank you for the answer to my question.
     
  10. DunRanull

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    When I was a kid, I knew an old man who had his grandfather's Colt .36 cal handed down from the War of the Southern Rebellion. He used it as a wall-hanger in his nursery office and for shooting bunnies stealing nibbles from his nursery stock. It worked well but Ive never had to do that.
     
  11. Kelly-A

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    Back in the late 70's

    One of the writers of , I think it was Guns and Ammo did a write up on the repro of a 1860 Colt , a Navy Arms gun , and he did use it to hunt Deer , successfully :D
    Besides whatever State Law might say about what you can hunt with or not , the .44 cap and ball has plenty of power to kill deer . If it can drop a 400 Lb. Burley Logger in his tracks , then deer are a non-issue here . The Walker or Dragoon is a better choice than the 1860 Model , and try to remember the Walker was the Hand Cannon of all times till the mighty .44 Magnum came along . It reigned supreme many years before that .44 Magnum though and can fire a 60 grain musket size charge in her . The Dragoon at 50 grain , these guns are no slouches . Even an 1858 Remington with near 40 grains will knock your pee pee in the dirt ;) Our Westcoast Black-Tail dont get that big , and its been done , along with more small game than I can count :D While there may be better guns to hunt deer with , they are certainly capable as long as the hunter does his job right with range and shot placement . Lack of power is not the issue . A beaurocracy that makes game laws up as they see fit obviously have NEVER shot a Walker !
    I have :D Nuff said ...

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  12. Kelly-A

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    Debate is over

    I just pulled this Data from a reliable source , DEBATE IS OVER :D

    With a longer barrel, the Walker should attain somewhat higher velocity than with the following load:

    Cap and Ball Ballistics
    By Ed Sanow
    Handguns February 1998
    Cap and Ball Wound Ballistics

    Calibre: .44 Walker
    Firearm: 1847 Walker
    Bullet: 141gr RB
    FFFg: 60gr
    Velocity: 1287 fps
    Energy: 519 ft lb
    1 Shot Stop: 87%

    Put that in your pipe and smoke it ! :D
     
  13. freedom475

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    I use a Remington 58 with a RB for much of my whitetail hunting. I really like the way it shoots and is sure has plenty of penitration...knocks em' dead. It doesn't leave a huge bloodshot bruise, but it pokes a very clean hole. All of my shots into the lungs have gone clean through. My load shoots the RB at 970fps with real BP...I can go hotter with PyrodexP..but I don't like the stuff.

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  14. Kelly-A

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    sweet

    Nice picture , nice gun , nice story , what more could you ask for on this topic :D
    Nobody died in the Civil War with Modern propellents , that includes Horseys , Elk , Deer , Bear , Pig , and anything else that moved , two footed or four .

    Thanks for sharing ! Welcome aboard :D
     
  15. Hawg

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    Depends on how you look at it. It was modern at the time.;)
     
  16. Kelly-A

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    Hawg , did you notice

    Hawg , did you notice that this gentlemens revolver was the exact same revolver I sent you ? Was probably nice to have that checkering on the grip panels on that cold snowy day too for him . ;) And the deer was probably mezmerized by the beautiful CCH on the frame and stopped for an instant to admire it whilest grazing , BANG !
    And Jerkey was born this day . :D
     
  17. Hawg

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    Yep, noticed that.