Hardcast bullet and barrel question.

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by theenaut, Jul 30, 2013.

  1. theenaut

    theenaut New Member

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    Is it true that id need a different barrel to handle the hardcast projectiles and if so what would I need??
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Yes. DO NOT use lead in a glock barrel. You need a standard rifled barrel replacement like those made by wolf.
     

  3. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Need? No. Recommended? Yes. I run relatively hard cast out of a 17 and a 19, glock barrels, with no issues. I do however, normally clean them. I havent had any leading issues, but thats not to say others havent. Also, not saying that you should or shouldnt do it, just my experience over 1000s of cast bullets from them the last several years. I will NOT run cast in a .40 Glock tho.
     
  4. mountainman13

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    So what, in your opinion , makes it OK to run lead in a 9mm but not a .40?
     
  5. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    I didnt say it was OK, just stating my opinion and experience.

    .40 is a volatile cartridge to begin with. Glocks are notorious for their 'unsupported' chamber, so I wouldnt push the envelope any farther than necessary. The majority of Glock KBs have been with .40s, and normally from bullet set-back (Hydra-shoks are bad about that). The extra deep seating creates an immense pressure spike, often resulting in pieces parts going several different directions. If extra leading was to occur, pressure spikes would also occur. (Hence the warning to begin with.)
    I am in no way endorsing the use of cast in a poly rifled barrel, so dont take it that way. And feel free to use the internet to search this topic, plenty of good info there.
     
  6. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    You do realize that 9mm luger runs higher pressures than a 40.
     
  7. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Actually, they both run 33-35k psi. Your point is?

    Accurate Arms even published a warning about the volatility of the .40, advising against the use of their, or any others, powder for re-loading the .40S&W. Almost every reloading manual also mentions it.

    Im not attempting to argue, based upon opinions alone. Please, search the web.
     
  8. mountainman13

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    OK.
    Regardless, when a newcomer asks a simple question it is best to err on the side of caution and not muk things up with bad input based on personal experience. So I'll repeat my previous statement with a small addition.
    DO NOT USE LEAD IN A FACTORY GLOCK BARREL and you shouldn't use reloads either.
    Your argument isn't bad, but it doesn't make it right. It's safe to assume the original poster is a new shooter. It is best that they do what is safe.
    No need to search the web on it.
    They had an answer directly from a Glock Armorer.
     
  9. theenaut

    theenaut New Member

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    Thanks for your help
     
  10. Kraj

    Kraj New Member

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    Reloads in glocks are fine. As for lead I bought a aftermarket barrel. It should pay for itself and then I don't have to worry about it
     
  11. bntyhntr6975

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    Mountainman: where I do not believe I gave any bad input, I will say I was not trying to muck anything up, and caution with any firearm is very important, yes.

    With all due respect, apparently, we come across to each other as pompous know-it-all self appointed gurus, which usually turns into petty arguments. I dont believe it was intended that way, it just happens. Thats something we can work on.

    There are no firearm makers who will endorse the use of privately reloaded ammunition, and usually voids your warranty. So by that, a person should not use them. However, in all actuality, there is nothing else wrong with reloaded ammunition, as long as it is safely within specs. The user does however, assume the responsibility of the both the firearm and the ammunition.
     
  12. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    IIRC, Glock has stated not to use cast lead bullets in their firearms due to the fact of the polygonal rifling that lead will build up too fast in the rifling and can cause pressure spikes that could damage the firearm.
     
  13. mountainman13

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    Actually I thought you were pretty well spoken and knowledgeable. There are just certain things that better left for people to find out as they advance their knowledge.
    You're Absolutely correct about the liability issues with reloads and why companies don't endorse them.
    I can't endorse them for the same reason, I am connected to glock.
    Minor head butting happens, It's not an issue when both sides are reasonable. ;)
     
  14. bntyhntr6975

    bntyhntr6975 New Member

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    Really cant find a better product to be connected with, in my opinion. I do not know anything of their customer service, as Ive never needed it. For years, I found them ugly, and cheap looking. Then I got to shoot 1. Now Ive got a few. Lol.

    Years ago, I spent considerable time with a sheriffs dept armorer, learning quite abit about several firearms, whatever he was working on at the time. Sometimes I forget what it was like not to know things, or how to do things, etc. I do not have any papers that say I know anything about firearms innards or workings tho. Maybe someday. (I am amazed tho, to see and hear just how little knowledge is out there in some cases. Its kinda scary.)
     
  15. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Absolutely. Your history shows.
    I have all kinds of certs, they're generally just expensive pieces of paper. Experience makes all the difference.