Hand to Hand Combat?

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by survivalnut, May 9, 2007.

  1. survivalnut

    survivalnut New Member

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    Does anyone here practice martial arts? If so, what form do you practice and why? I am trying to find a good way to defend myself if for some reason I don't have my gun on me.
     
  2. Pointman

    Pointman New Member

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    The Israeli Krav Maga is particularly good and well worth a few lessons to see if you take to it.
     

  3. BrassMonkey

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    I have studied it for the last two years, and find it to be the most useful form of martial art for real life. When I was younger I was very active in Tae Kwon Do and competed in local tournaments. In my experience most forms of martial arts taught in America are useless outside of a ring with rules. Krav Maga was not designed to look fancy, it was designed to work.
     
  4. RONSERESURPLUS

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    Hello all


    Ron = Seresurplus here! I currently hold a Green Belt in Tae Know Do, but to be honest, It's been years sinced I've really Praticed it? I have settled into my own Mixed Breed of hand to hand and More Often Edged weapons when Firearms were not an Option? I see the Need to Fight Open hand, But Given the Option, I will Pick using an Edged weapon each and Every time? The Ability to Take an Opponent with an Edged weapon to me seems like a Better option and Thought I would Fight Empty hand Given no other way, Just not my preference?

    I've had My share of Fights in and out of the Service and before anyone asks me if I have ever Killed anyone, Remember, Only the Bragarts will respond to that Question? Killing someone is a Horrible thing and leaves a mark on your Heart and Soul! If you must, DO, if Not, Leave them as ya found them (Asleep on Guard Duty)! LOL In all seriousness, martial Arts is a great addition to Survival skill,s but only 1 part? Just my thought, yours might differ greatly and I'll never call yo wrong for that opinion?




    RON
     
  5. vince99

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    I would also take boxing lessons for a few months learn the basics, left jab and overhand right...I fouht for 3 years back in my late teens and you never forget how to punch. The simple things like turning the wrist with a snap or teaching you how to step into a punch or turn your hips. All of this will double the power of a punch if not triple in some people.. most people punch incorrectly..... Krav Maga as well it good to mix it up...
     
  6. Bidah

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    My whole family takes TKD. My wife and oldest are instructing as well. Why TKD? Well there is not much else here in the frozen boonies. I have found that what most people want out of TKD, or any martial art, is the stuff that TKD teaches once you reach Black. Of course most people quit long before this, or as soon as they obtain BB. We are definitely a "want it now" nation. Did you know that traditional martial arts programs are tailored to the US market and that mentality?

    -Bidah
     
  7. DangerMMA

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    Not bashing TKD at all, and sorry If I offend anyone.


    TKD will get you know where, punching from your hip, spinning kicks, oh wait I mean "Tornado Kicks," are you kidding me?

    As a 6-0 Pro MMA fighter (145lb. class WEC, RFC,WFC, etc.) and someone who has probably been in more street fights/weapon (including knife) fights then you can even imagine. I will go out on a limb and say TKD is for children to learn the basics of self discipline and a confidence booster toward their own self defense. If you are truely interested in self-defense and practical defense (big difference between the two). I suggest, Krav Magga for those who want a well rounded weapon defense program. From my involvement and research in the IKM system, I found it to be extremely useful in disarming untrained citizens, in no way would I want to use this system against someone well trained in weapons. Obviously anyone well trained in weapons will be able to overtake an unarmed man but for hand to hand or hand to kinfe combat I suggest:

    Ground Fighting (90% of fights will end on the ground):

    Russain Sambo is a great system. (Currently training)
    *Mainly focus' on leg locks, hip locks, and ankle locks

    Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (working on my Brown in this)
    *The ultimate ground fighting system.
    *With this you can easily submit or criple a threat.
    *Doesnt matter how big they are if they cant breath or have lost function of their joints.

    Wrestling (Highschool/Collegiate)
    *Great for balance and setting up the "ground and pound"

    Stand Up Fighting

    Nothing beats Muay Thai
    *Form of kick boxing originating in Thailand, no dancing or rythyms here...just plain laying on a beating.
    *Includes kicks, punches, elbow and knee strikes

    Boxing I have found to be great for defending your face, I myself boxed for a few years with a pro record of 14-0. I love boxing, now in a street fight I'll pull my muay thai card. No one expects a solid elbow or knee strike.

    Quickest way to end a "street fight" or "bar confrontation"
    IMO A great opener for any confrontation is the head strike (head-butt). One of the quickest ways to put someone to sleep and suprisingly one of the best methods for inflicting minimal harm on your own body when performed correctly, actually less than a punch/kick believe it or not.



    Again I appologize if I offended anyone or put down anyones form...Any type of martial art is great and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you feel comfortable with a certain art or style, STICK WITH IT!!!!


    -DangerMMA
     
  8. huckleberry

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    i practice brazilian jiu-jitsu, i picked it because from what ive read it seems to be the most effective... but everyone has their own oppinion on that.
     
  9. pioneer461

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    Hand-to-hand, unarmed fighting should be avoided at all costs! If you find yourself in a street fight, fight dirty. Cheat. Bite. Gouge. Go for the gonads. No rules apply when someone is trying to kill you. Better yet, don't get caught without your gun.
     
  10. huckleberry

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    that is a darn good point.
     
  11. matt g

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    I was always taught that a fair fight is a losing fight. I'll use what ever I can find as weapon to ensure my survival/keeping my wallet intact/avoiding butt rape.
     
  12. pioneer461

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    When I was still at the cop shop, we'd get annual training in "arrest & control techniques." We'd be taught the newest, fancy, magic hold or grip to use on bad guys. Some of the methods taught worked rather well, and many others were forgotten before we got back on patrol. These were the latest "lawyer approved" holds, based on one martial art or another, that would assure we would never get sued for excessive force. Yeah, right!

    In reality, on the streets you use what works. If the bad guy is making a move for your gun, then all bets are off.
    :cool:
     
  13. Boris

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    All In Fighting

    Gentlemen,

    I thought I might mention the book, 'All In Fighting' by Capt. W.E. Fairbairn, although one might say a little dated (1942) I think it still has relevance today. Fairbairn as you may remember was instrumental in adopting radical for the time handgun defensive techniques when an Assistant Commissioner of Police in the Shanghai Municiple Police. I fortunate to have an original signed by the author.

    A few years ago a couple of SEK officers in Germany asked me for a copy, which with great difficulty I managed to get. They thought it had merit, and it may be have been reprinted since, you might find it interesting.........
     
  14. RONSERESURPLUS

    RONSERESURPLUS New Member

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    Hello all


    Ron L here = SERESURPLUS


    Hand to hand? Yup, ya can do that, I've always seen the need for some of those skills as we were always going to different countries and you rarely could get by with the carry of a weapon, evan a knive was frowned upon, though many of us did it?

    My Hand to hand skills came from early on Traning in Tae Kwon Do, but we had a 7TH dan Instructor from Korea who taught empty hand to the Rocks, so we got a real crash course on how to stay alive, our school was a small one, but soon we were winning a lot of competition, and though that made many happy, our head instructor, always say,. competition teaches you SO many bad things? Like pulling a punch or letting your opponent up? He was all for the finish him off and then see if he needs a hand up? I try to live by what he taught us and sadly he passed away a few years back! He always taught go for the knee's, throat or many other vital area's and never show mercy! Kinda sums up how to stay alive and how to fight in a nutshell? Just my .02 cents, but I know that works!
     
  15. rickrem700

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    Hand to hand combat

    Well, fellas I for one am never with out a blade, I may from time to time, not have my gun, but always have a blade, when I was younger I could hold my own any day of the week but now approaching 40 and smoking for the last 25 years am not the man I used to be, and to tell the truth, come down to it I've probably only got about 30 seconds of breath to put the woop *** on anybody, I know I can make short work of most men in my age bracket, but the cold hard truth is we are all going to have to face sooner or latter is as we get older, we are not as good as we were once were, This has came to my attention lately, so my way of thinking has changed dramatically, The way I see it, I have no choice other than to go balls to the wall ballistic with anything I can get my hands on, and use it as a weapon to to eliminate said assailant with extreme prejudice, as it is a matter of survival, So the rules are, there are no rules!!!
     
  16. Duck

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    For the guys that mentioned MMA and BJJ, where do y'all train? I just got back into training about a month ago. I'm training at a school that just opened up in the area called Rush. They are the first MMA gym in the area.
     
  17. huckleberry

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    i train at a local mma gym here in alabama. it took a while for me to find a gym, i was looking for a bjj dojo but there is not one here so there are like 3 mma gyms here that all offer bjj classes. and a friend of mine had been training at one for a few years and told me to come try it out and im glad i did because i enjoy it.
     
  18. glockfire

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    MCMAP

    Marine Corps Martial Arts Progam also known as Semper Fu
     
  19. gnoll

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    uechi-ryu
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    but it is more of a that dont hurt me the kick my azz in class more than that
     
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