Hack attorney claims store clerk shouldn’t have defended his life with gun

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Bigcountry02, May 29, 2013.

  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Another POS lawyer that needs to be in another profession. If I was the store clerk, sue the widow of the robber and fire the attorney and hire a different one!

    http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=7727&utm_source=feedly

    Simply unbelievable. This attorney must have hailed from one of the most liberal law schools on the east coast.

    The attorney, a former prosecutor, claims the store clerk who faced the armed robbers should have ran from the store or called police instead of using a gun to defend his life and that of other innocents present. This lawyer (are you listening Amavalise Jaramillo, you pathetic hack?) should be disbarred.

     
  2. Rocky7

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    Lawyers are not the cause of this crap. They wouldn't be offering up kak unless judges and/or the public were willing to eat it.
     

  3. Jagermeister

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    **** you Amavalise, you piece of ****. Bastard deserved to die. The wife of the dead scumbag is just as bad as her evil husband. Now she wants to make money off the demon's death. Beotch! Even in socialist Germany we can shoot armed intruders. But this is not Germany, this is New Mexico! Maybe we can find email address and mailing address to bug the hell out of the lawyer. Matthew needs a lot of support. Does anybody on this forum live in this area? Petition and protest. I would if I lived in this area. Now I am pissed! What the hell is happening to our great nation! I man has a god given right to protect himself, family and property. It is in the New Testament!
     
  4. trip286

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    The robber could have done something different too. Like, oh, I don't know... Not commit crime?
     
  5. Tackleberry1

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    This is going to be interesting...

    Did I read correctly that the clerk was able to watch the two men preparing for the robbery?

    I'm not defending the dead A-Hole or his wife but does NM have "Stand your Ground"... or "Castle Doctrine?"

    ...just saying... if not, and he had opportunity to flee due to early warning from surveillance... then this SH!T BAG attorney just might win.

    Hopefully not... Gunning down armed robbers should not only be tolerated... but encourage... when you consider all the future robberies and potential harm this clerk saved the world from enduring.

    Tack
     
  6. trip286

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    Yeah, you read that right... In the opinion of the scum sucking bastard who is saying the defendant could have chosen a different course of action (as if the sorry ass no good criminal has no choice at all)
     
  7. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Sedillo's attorney, Amavalise Jaramillo (Ambulance Chaser type or worst, needs his license pulled)

    Read some of the comments!

    Article from KRQE, dated 17 May 2013:

    BS - Armed Robbery and your life is not endangered - Sedillo's attorney is a complete idiot!

    http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/dead-robbers-widow-sues-shop-clerk

     
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  8. ajbeau

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    so basically If I go thru all the trouble of being responsible and getting a ccw permit, buy a gun, train on how to use it,then when the time comes to defend myself........I am guilty of a pre-meditated murder???
     
  9. JWagner

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    I do not know if NM has a law like the one in AZ that disallows civil suits for persons injured or killed in the commission of a crime. It would be great if they do.
     
  10. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    It is based on your state laws.

    This is a lawsuit - all for money!
     
  11. JTJ

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    New Mexico is one of the 11 states that have more people on welfare than are working. If the jury reflects the attitude of the people in the state the hack could win. Personally I would like to see the hack get stuck with the bill for the legal expenses for filing a frivolous law suit.
     
  12. rickster

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    I say they make the store clerk the new chief of police. Job well done, now we don't have to spend tax money on the BG.
     
  13. alsaqr

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    Ramon Sedillo is worm food: As it should be. Maybe the young scumbag accomplice will change his ways after leaking for awhile.

    I'm surprised the family of the late scumbag is allowed to sue in civil court in NM.
     
  14. Tackleberry1

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    Perhaps this will be the case that changes that... allowing the civil case, that is.

    ... and isn't it the case in most states that if you are participating in a felony and anyone dies... even 1 of your "partners in crime"... the surviving criminals get charged with murder?

    I've seen several cases like this where 1 BG is killed by a homeowner or shopkeeper and the surviving accomplice catches a murder wrap... Just don't recall which States there were in?

    Tack
     
  15. Tackleberry1

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    I agree Trip... ambulance chasers like this turn my stomach... just saying that you never know what's going to happen when the dirt bag attorney shows a jury the "early warning" factor and then proceeds to put the distraught and penniless widow on the stand.

    I've no doubt a parade of Cops could be called to testify that the shooting was justified... since there not charging the clerk, but this poor guys defense is going to cost him a boatload.

    This travesty highlights why every State needs a version of Castle Doctrine that shields shooters from Civil Liability when no charges are filed.

    ...and why all of us, regardless of how justified, need to aware that taking a life even under the most obviously necessary circumstances MAY STILL cost us everything we've worked for which is complete BS. I've no doubt the "safety" of other customers or employees who were not aware of what was about to go down played into this clerk deciding to take the action he did.

    Just a travesty that after surviving and event like that... he now get's to deal with a scum bag lawyer. :mad:

    Tack
     
  16. alsaqr

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    That is the case here in OK.

    Example: Two perps were stealing cable from a transformer station. One was electrocuted. The prosecutor charged the accomplice with murder.
     
  17. Tackleberry1

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    Thats AWSOME!!! :D

    I manage contracts for a commercial electrical firm and personally believe that it should be LEGAL to shoot wire thieves! ;)

    Tack
     
  18. c3shooter

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    Term is Felony Murder. Cannot tell you how many states have it, but is common. Death occurs as a result of performing a felony, other parties to crime are charged with murder. Since they were present, aiding and abetting.

    Classic case- I'm driving the getaway car. You two go in to rob diner. Diner is hosting 3 dinner parties- Seal Team 2, 5th Marines, 2nd Ranger Bn (God, I just LOVE happy endings!)

    You two never make it out the door. YOU waved your Jennings J-22 at the guy known as "K-Bar"- who filleted you on the spot. Your partner fainted at the sight of.... a side of you he had never seen (the INSIDE).

    When I heard sirens I became distraught, my foot slipped off the clutch, and I hit the dump truck parked in front of me,taking out my radiator.

    I am going for felony murder- present, aiding and abetting a felony during which a death occurred, even tho I did not pull the trigger. When the troops finish playing "spin the punk"- HE is going for same charge, plus attempted robbery, littering (teeth he left on the floor) and whatever else he can be whacked with.
     
  19. c3shooter

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    And Tack- don't shoot wire theives.

    They should be grounded, and charged. About 9100 volts should do.
     
  20. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    IMO, the clerk did the right thing, period and end of story. two men tried to commit a felony and were stopped from doing it. i agree with Trip, the two men made a choice to commit a crime and they ended up paying for it. in no way should the clerk be sued for doing the right thing. IMO, he should counter-sue the robbers widow for stress and punitive damages because of the attempted robbery.

    i will add this just for thoughts on this. in many cases the burden of proof required in civil cases is much different than that required in a criminal case.