Habeas Corpus? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Habeas Corpus!

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by KalashnikovJosh, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    Prison Planet.com » Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern Americans Without Trial

    Yeah,yeah.
    I know.

    Its Alex Jones again,but before you go off (you know who you are) demeaning the messenger,take a look at the message and what its about,and who it cites.

    This is a REAL bill of legislation,with REAL congress-critters talking about it in the context of the issue at hand.

    The pressitutes in the Pravda main stream media couldn't -and wouldn't- do any better in presenting an issue.
     
  2. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    This has been covered by sources other than Alex Jones. This is not good news.
     

  3. KalashnikovJosh

    KalashnikovJosh New Member

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    bkt- if I could ask you to take the time to reference these other sources please?

    It would help with the issue because not too many people are thrilled with the credibility of Mr.Jones(although,as I continue to point out,its not like the credibility of most major news agencies is any better).

    I do find that corroborating reports from many sources tends to negate any issue of credibility at all.

    And no,it is NOT good news.

    We are literally witnessing the same as Germans in the 1930's witnessed,these new "laws" are nothing short of the infamous Nazi "enabling laws".
     
  4. bkt

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    Just google detain americans indefinitely and you'll get a bunch of hits. Ron Paul, Gerald Celente and others were talking about this. There are links that refer to this here, [ame=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=615_1322288745]here[/ame], and [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NLwHysOvg4]here[/ame]

    Look around and you'll find it. Just read the text of sb-3081.
     
  5. KalashnikovJosh

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    More on this over at Sipsey Street-

    Sipsey Street Irregulars: Lindsey Graham calls for using military against American citizens. Strangling the feeble old Posse Comitatus in its sickbed.

    You ask me,thats,of course,if your just asking-

    This needs alot more attention then its being given.
    Were basically watching our "elected representatives" use the evil (fill in the blank) crap to enact their own version of the Nazi Germany "Enabling Laws".
     
  6. bkt

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    Meh. Nothing new. GCA '68 was based on Hitler's gun-limiting laws.

    Not to kick this aside as unimportant - it's EXTREMELY important - but it's easier to squeeze sap from a brick than it is to get voters to learn anything or pay attention to what's going on.
     
  7. KalashnikovJosh

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    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free...it expects what never was and never will be."
    -Thomas Jefferson
     
  8. orangello

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    If the government boys don't have to follow the rules when detaining me, then they shouldn't mind if i don't follow the rules and go along quietly. I doubt i am alone in that sentiment/plan of action.

    Maybe a stretch, but it could also be said that the anti-smoking campaigns of the Nazi regime were used to soften up the populace for other right-infringing campaigns of that regime. That came to mind when the nearest town to me made all restaurants "smoke free", though i do wonder about that barbeque place, perhaps they use heat lamps or hot steam.
     
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  9. KalashnikovJosh

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    You know,if I open a business and decide to allow smoking room for customers that smoke,then that is my right.
    My business,my rules,period.

    At least,thats how a true free market works........

    Of course,with the federal government dictating whom business owners must cater to and whom they must hire and how much they must be paid,etc,its really only a matter of time before businesses might as well all be owned by "the collective" and run by a central governing body........which is,in fact,the true definition of "socialism".

    And now they want to use the military to enforce their will,suspend habeas corpus and due process.....

    I don't think its much of a stretch to say that if this odious legislation becomes "law",then thats all folks.The Republic that was created for the first time in history to set government under man,inalienable rights and individual liberty,is DONE.

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  10. orangello

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    Oh, that is the least of it, what about requiring business owners to pay into an unemployment insurance system? What about requiring employees to pay into a retirement supplement program of questionable viability? What about the advantages enjoyed by road work contracting businesses with "minority" "ownership/participation"? Etc. etc. etc.

    Don't think of it as "living under the weight of socialism"; think of it as "togetherness" like "yes WE can".
     
  11. Jim1611

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    This bill is bad news, even if it doesn't make it to the House for a vote. It does not surprise me who has drafted it either. McCain threw the Bill of Rights out the window when he wrote campaign finance reform that Bush signed into law. Is should be no surprise either that a democrat would help. What disturbs me is that I know these people are aware of what the Constitution says but still they seem to not mind the circumventing of it to move their agenda along. They tell us it's for our good and protection....I don't see that.

    Guys at what point is it that our rights mean enough for us to take action against this type of thing? I know we have our vote and we can contact our reps but as time goes on it seems to me these people do whatever they please even if it is unconstitutional. They seem to not think the public will ever react against them. Maybe they're right, maybe we have become a nation that does not value freedom as our forefathers did.
     
  12. KalashnikovJosh

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    I'm pretty sure were loooonnnnggg past justification....its a matter of balls and audacity as to what happens next.

    The pond scum on the cesspool,aka "the cream of the crop" in the district of criminals has been trying to pass laws like this for a long time.

    Ever hear of the "denying weapons and explosives to dangerous terrorists act" by Frank Lautenburg?

    He wanted to get a "law" passed that would make your and mine 2A rights subject to secret government lists.......

    These people are long overdue a good tarring and feathering.
     
  13. Jim1611

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    I think we will have to be pushed much further than we are right now to take a drastic action against this. Most of us have never done a thing to limit a fellow citizen's right to freedom but these people do it every day. We also have not enabled an enemy of this nation to get an upper hand on us but acts such as Clinton making it fairly easy for China to gain technology that enabled them to put nukes on our soil has been done with little or no resistance. Those same Chinese are now working with Iran by the way. Can these people, like mccain, not see how they are hurting the rights of all of us?

    I'm all for the long overdue tar and feathering but who leads this and when do we start?
     
  14. fmj

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    re: no smoking laws.

    Last year city Gubmint enacted a blanket no smoking law in ALL "public" buildings. NO smoking in bars, restaraunts, workplaces etc etc....all with out a vote by city council, Wake up one day and BAM! LAW!

    Sad fact, Americans are far too fat and happy (and stupid) to do ANYTHING to stop it. Incementalism! By the time the populace at large wake up, it will be far too late and we'll all be under the boot of totalatarinism! Kinda like Germany woke up one day and they were pulling jews out of the ovens for supper!
     
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  15. KalashnikovJosh

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    As a Jew,I would like to say that eating us for supper is not kosher.
     
  16. opaww

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    Buy more ammo...and name the place and time to meet so we can get this started.
     
  17. KalashnikovJosh

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    They pass this "law",and we might as well start down that road.
     
  18. therewolf

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    Man. I want 500 of these posters!