So I came back from dinner tonight. After heading in to my apartment I remembered I hade left something in my truck, which was parked at the front gate. So I go out open my truck door and POW. I thought that sounded like A small cal. gun. Then I hear barking tires and A car flying towards me! I head between two cars nearest to me, as the pasenger is eyeballing me. The gate is down so they slam on breaks for the gate to come up. Pasenger still eyeing me they bust threw the gate as it is raising up.. And speed off, I look at the end of the parking lot and there is A guy standing there bleeding. and another guy calling the po/ambulance..I am waiting for my CWP should be in at the end of May. Not that I would have done anything different. But I was after the fact thinking (what if the passenger fired off a round or two at me for just being there?)
guy gets shot at my apartment!!
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You know, it's sad...there was once a day when you wouldn't have to have a permit to have that gun in the first place, and if you had fired at the car (who obviously just shot someone) maybe at a tire to disable them, then held them at gun point, you'd be a hero...
Not anymore. Now if you had fired at their tire (even if you actually saw them shoot the man) you'd be charged for any number of crimes...
And to think that places like NY have to pass laws now that prosecute people for NOT helping victims of crimes they witness...I think they call it depraved-indifference (or something like that).
It's not just because people in those mega-cities are afraid of being hurt by the criminals if they help, it's just as much because those people are afraid of being prosecuted by the anti-gun/anti-defense/anti-justice laws of the land!
I'm not saying that you should have done anything different than you did. I'm just reminded of the fact that we're always trading rights and freedoms for security, and look what it gets us.
Not anymore. Now if you had fired at their tire (even if you actually saw them shoot the man) you'd be charged for any number of crimes...
And to think that places like NY have to pass laws now that prosecute people for NOT helping victims of crimes they witness...I think they call it depraved-indifference (or something like that).
It's not just because people in those mega-cities are afraid of being hurt by the criminals if they help, it's just as much because those people are afraid of being prosecuted by the anti-gun/anti-defense/anti-justice laws of the land!
I'm not saying that you should have done anything different than you did. I'm just reminded of the fact that we're always trading rights and freedoms for security, and look what it gets us.
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when i had my g30, i always had it with me in the glove box. only time i wouldnt carry was if i knew id be drinking. when i was 18 i lived in a small complex that had the nickname murder bend. it was filled with crack heads, coke heads and the occasional burglars. i my self had witnessed two high speed chases end right in front of my building and my friend that we worked with that also lived at the complex got robbed when they were at work on christmas eve. luckily my girlfreind got pregnant and gave us a reason to jump out of the lease. i think the only reason my place didnt get robbed was because they knew i always had a gun with me, and they didnt want me to come home and catch'em. at that time i would carry my shotgun with me to and from the car in an easy to access bag. risky but, hey i knew which ones i couldnt trust and i let them know i had a gun. then we moved out and a couple years later i turned 21 and thats when i got my glock. she was with me 24/7
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when i had my g30, i always had it with me. only time i wouldnt carry was if i knew id be drinking. when i was 18 i lived in a small complex that had the nickname murder bend. it was filled with crack heads, coke heads and the occasional burglars. i my self had witnessed two high speed chases end right in front of my building and my friend that we worked with that also lived at the complex got robbed when they were at work on christmas eve. luckily my girlfreind got pregnant and gave us a reason to jump out of the lease. i think the only reason my place didnt get robbed was because they knew i always had a gun with me, and they didnt want me to come home and catch'em. at that time i would carry my shotgun with me to and from the car in an easy to access bag. risky but, hey i knew which ones i couldnt trust and i let them know i had a gun. then we moved out and a couple years later i turned 21 and thats when i got my glock. she was with me 24/7
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ditto.......yes, we should all wait until we can pay the fees for a little card that says we can defend ourselves and loved ones.
"better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6!"
I'm not saying that you should have done anything different than you did. I'm just reminded of the fact that we're always trading rights and freedoms for security, and look what it gets us.[/QUOTE]
As my good friend Benjamin Franklin always says; Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
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I have one problem with the CCW laws in my area. The fact that if you go out with friends and you go somewhere like a bar or nightclub, you can't carry a pistol. Me and a friend of mine got attacked one night and if the other guy decided to pull a weapon we would have had a big problem cause I didn't have my gun. We were going from one bar to another and decided to walk the two blocks to save the parking fee.
As soon as we came out of the bar, this guy latched onto us and kept asking us for money. My buddy gave him a dollar thinking he would leave but he kept asking for more. He was going on with this sob story about not having enough money to get back to Lexington to see his 'baby momma' and that he was homeless.
We got almost to the bar where we were going and he got desperate, he stepped in front of JD (not Dillinger, my friend from work) and got in his face and said "How about I stab both you mother****** and take your money?" I was close to him because during the whole walk he never took his left hand out of his pocket. I thought he might have a small pistol of a knife in his pocket so I stayed very close to his left side. Anyway, since I was so close I pushed him and sayed "F*** you!"
He tripped and fell backwards giving us both time to double time it to the club. We told club security (city employees) on the street what happened and they took off after the guy.
Anytime anyone asked me why I carry I tell that story, I could have ended up dead that night.
As soon as we came out of the bar, this guy latched onto us and kept asking us for money. My buddy gave him a dollar thinking he would leave but he kept asking for more. He was going on with this sob story about not having enough money to get back to Lexington to see his 'baby momma' and that he was homeless.
We got almost to the bar where we were going and he got desperate, he stepped in front of JD (not Dillinger, my friend from work) and got in his face and said "How about I stab both you mother****** and take your money?" I was close to him because during the whole walk he never took his left hand out of his pocket. I thought he might have a small pistol of a knife in his pocket so I stayed very close to his left side. Anyway, since I was so close I pushed him and sayed "F*** you!"
He tripped and fell backwards giving us both time to double time it to the club. We told club security (city employees) on the street what happened and they took off after the guy.
Anytime anyone asked me why I carry I tell that story, I could have ended up dead that night.
Yea im fine, I have been packing the heater just in case for the past few days. The detective called and said the victom was not A resedent of our complex. And he gave A shady story to why he was there in the first place.
It is thought that it was A drug deal gone bad. The detective said it is comon for them to deal in parking lots in the area, but this is the first in our complex that we know of. Thanks for your thoughts guys
It is thought that it was A drug deal gone bad. The detective said it is comon for them to deal in parking lots in the area, but this is the first in our complex that we know of. Thanks for your thoughts guys
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Good man! Keep the "heat" close brother. Would hate to read about a tragic murder that could have been avoided only if the victim had gotten his CCW in time.
You need to be aware of one important fact; You are an eyewitness and the bad guys know it.
Watch your back brother.
I doubt this punk was a mob hitman. He's propbably not going to come back for you. I would keep my awarness at the same level everyone else does when concealing a deadly weapon.
Watch your back brother.
I doubt this punk was a mob hitman. He's propbably not going to come back for you. I would keep my awarness at the same level everyone else does when concealing a deadly weapon.
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I use to hang out in bars/clubs etc.... Nothing but trouble. I completely avoid them now and don't have near the problems.
Alchohol, late night, and stupid people in large numbers. You can't really be surprised when something bad happens.
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WELL...I use to hang out in bars/clubs etc.... Nothing but trouble. I completely avoid them now and don't have near the problems.
Alchohol, late night, and stupid people in large numbers. You can't really be surprised when something bad happens.
At least you lived through the "invencible stage" of your life. CONGRATS!
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That is one crazy story! I am glad you're okay!
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wow had you not forgotten what you did; it could have been you. close call.
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The only time I almost got hit was at Pioneer Square in Seattle. My friends and I were walking past Occidental and decided to go towards the Last Supper Club. This guy comes out of the club wearing a white vest, takes his shirt out, throws it on the sidewalk, revealing his SMG...he pulled it out and started firing in the air. Everyone including us, hit the ground real fast, praying that the bullets didn't hit us. There were medics just a few feet away and I could see them just freeze.
The loser then gets into his Caprice Classic and turns on his music and drives off like nothing happened. No one got hurt fortunately, but he did take out some car windows including mine. The worst part was it started to snow the next day and it was my first day at work....Boy was I mad.
The loser then gets into his Caprice Classic and turns on his music and drives off like nothing happened. No one got hurt fortunately, but he did take out some car windows including mine. The worst part was it started to snow the next day and it was my first day at work....Boy was I mad.
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