Guns Obsolete In Coming Wars

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  1. saintrambone

    saintrambone New Member

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    Like a mathematical equation, the war is won or lost before it is ever fought.

    You must consider this fact before you engage our mortal enemies who rule on American soil, and across both borders.

    Technology is the equation of war at the highest points and it always has been. A man with a stick kills an unarmed man. A man with a spear kills a man with a stick. A man with a gun kills a man with a spear. A man with a decapacitating laser or nerve gas kills a man with a gun. A man with a satellite controlled weapon(s) kills a man with tear gas or a laser. A man who controls space in its outer core with directed lasers and control of mass and time kills a man with a mere satellite based weapon.

    Once you realize this, you understand why we are nothing in the United States. We are like convicts and guns are only good for those at the bottom of the equation I have breifly outlined.

    Do not always believe that what you are shooting at has been killed. Like the Wizard of Oz, some control what goes on down here, and you are left dancing like a puppet with your silly guns.

    Beware also that Los Angeles gives a automatic felony for gun ownership and a 250,000 bail per gun. I hope their judges who allow this are killed, just like those who torture us in Alabama.

    Welcome the coming war, but know that your guns are nothing in the higher equation of war.

    Mobile Audit Club's, Kurt Brown -- Saint Ram Bone, former FDIC bank examiner who survived when other honest bank examiners were killed and labeled suicide. Casinos are drug lords are your best bet to take down, and nobody will care who dies.
     
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  2. Declaration Day

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    Saintrambone, thank you for your philosophic thread, but you're wrong.

    Technology can help to efficiently eliminate specific targets, but it cannot overcome guerrilla warfare.

    Feel free to disagree, but tell me then, why a bunch of rag-tag, dirt poor, drugged up third world revolutionaries have held back the best-equipped, best funded, most highly trained military in the world for four years.
     

  3. DWARREN123

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    You don't own the land until you stand on it with weapon in hand.
     
  4. notdku

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    I think this thread is just a plug for his website. Saying guns are going to be obsolete is completely false, it's just an attention grabber.
     
  5. bkt

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    Respectfully, that's not correct. We won the revolutionary war but it was never certain that we would. Many events took place due to dumb luck that helped our side enormously.

    Viet Nam was won militarily but lost ideologically.

    Now, if there is no such thing as chaos or uncertainty in your world -- just very complex, very long but knowable equations -- that's fine. My world's a little different.

    I'm pretty sure my neighbors and others living in and around my area are not in control of space-borne weapons systems. Owning an AR15 is about protecting me and my family from thugs. Taking on the Marines wasn't on my agenda.
     
  6. Declaration Day

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    .....Who seem to be more concerned with not offending muslims than winning a war.
     
  7. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    You noticed that too, eh? :mad:
     
  8. RONSERESURPLUS

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    Guns obsolete in Coming wars?

    Hello all


    Ron L here = Seresurplus


    With all due respect to the origional potser, he is WRONG! Been all over the word, foungt in my share of wars, and One thing always matters in the ned? That of Boots on the ground! You can have all the High Tec, Special ops BS, in the end, it's the Grunt, On the ground with that rifle that makes the difference! The difference between ASrmed folks in a disaster and Unarmed folks? The armed folks are the WAR, the Folks without are refugees! Its that Simple?




    RON L
     
  9. Brent L

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    Saintrambone, is this your personal philosophy, or is it like Notdku said, a cheap plug for your website? I, quite frankly, find your ramblings to be incoherent and your position on ultimate control indefensible.
     
  10. billy_the_kid43

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    Wrong you are.

    To the original poster,

    Unfortunately, you seem to have forgotten one very important fact when it comes to defending yourself from a tyrannous government. The truth is that we all are depending on the history of man to repeat itself. When a government attempts to remove certain liberties, the people rise up and attempt to overthrow the government. In the process of overthrowing such governments, you temporarily disable the use of weapons that can defeat the free public. We are all assuming if the time arises to defend certain liberties, we would be doing it to a government that is not completely in control of itself and therefore vulnerable to attack. With this being the case, then the use of firearms and a well planned attack should be all it takes to defend against governments that would use satellites to defeat its own people.

    It will be a sad day if the time ever arises again for the people to defend their civil liberties against its own government, but hopefully all free men will rise to the occasion and work in unison for the same goal...to keep free citizens uncaged!
     
  11. Taxpayer

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    Well, I'm convinced! After reading the first post I'm gonna turn in all my guns and vote for Billary and Osama. :eek: Then if I get into trouble, I'll just call 911.
     
  12. pioneer461

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    "Saint" Rambone has no doubt dazzled us with his pseudo intellect, but he could not be more wrong. To illustrate just one point, during WW2, allies dropped thousands of one-shot, crude pistols into Axis occupied territories. With those crude pistols which took longer to load than it took to manufacture, civilian partisans fought back against the fascist military machine. The pistols, known as “Liberators,” were used to sneak up to close range with the enemy by whatever means available, kill him and take his rifle, pistol, whatever. And that was against the “unbeatable” enemy of the day, with V-1 & V-2 rockets, jet airplanes, a nuclear weapon program and der Fuhrer's other wonder weapons.

    Behold the lowly Liberator…

    [​IMG]
     
  13. cnorman18

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    read a little history

    With all due respect, saintrambone should read a little less nutty conspiracy theory and a little more history.

     
  14. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    HA! :D That's funny.
     
  15. cnorman18

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    Go ahead and take a look at this guy's website. He bounces from bizarre philosophy to outright paranoia to unintelligible gibberish, according to some organizational scheme that's not apparent to the rest of us. The man clearly needs some medical help, but from what he's written he's not likely to seek it. It's pretty clear to me why he was "injected against his will".

    I regret making fun of him. Mental illness is the subject of many jokes and out-downs, but the real thing is not funny at all. If you need an example of someone who ought NOT be given a permit to carry a weapon--this is the guy.

    If you believe in prayer, pray for him. That looks to me like the only chance he's got.
     
  16. AR Hammer

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    Same crap that lead to taking guns off fighters...
    Didn't take long to put gun pods back on and no fighter is designed with out a gun now!

    Same idea when the A-bomb came along...
    It was supposed to detour all 'Conventional' wars.

    'Tech' is getting it's a$$ handed to it in Iraq right now, and a grunt with a rifle is the ONLY way to do things!
    If high tech ruled, this war would be over by now...
     
  17. rickrem700

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    Liberty's

    Hey Billy,I'll make you famious, Sorry I could'nt resist that!!!


    Anyway, I'm afraid it's to late, our civil liberties are under fire daily, and being chiped away at even as we speak, the government just dose it so slowly that you don't realize what happend, then the next generation just thinks it's always been that way, pretty good con, If our founding fathers new what was going on today, they would be turning over in there graves!!! and as far as us banding together and defending ourselves against our government, you would quickly be labeled a terrorist, and they would make short work of you in a heart beat, you have seen what they have done to others like Tim mcveigh, terry nicoles ,Randy weaver, and oldboy out there in WACCO, these were all people that tried to buck the system, It's true what they say about one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, Problem is nobody's got the balls to do anything about it, They just don't make real men anymore, we have all got to much to loose these days, and as long as men have there cable tv and a six pack they are just happy as a pig in shi$. See how many guys you can get interested in throwing over the government, No see how fast you would be put into prison just talking about it!!! Sorry to sound so negetive but it is what it is, And beleave this there agenda is to disarm all of us, It might not happen today or next week or even next year, But you can bet the farm there will be a generation of children that never knew that at one time in history an American had a right to defend himself or herself with a firearm.
     
  18. cnorman18

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    Wait a minute...

    Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols WERE terrorists, no better than any mass-murderer from Hamas or Hezbollah. I don't care what your "cause" is--if it makes you think it's OK to blow up a day-care center, it's evil and wrong.

    With Randy Weaver and the Branch Davidians, you have a point. But don't lump them in with murderous scum.
     
  19. rickrem700

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    Wait a minute



    My point was they were all anti-government, and were all labeled terrorist, regardless of your personal view's, Like I said one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist, I did not say I agreed with any of them, but just for the record, I feel the same as you! but you can beleave many people backed Terry Nichols, Tim mcVeigh"s view's, and considered them Freedom fighters, The end results were my point!!! you will never get enough people to back any one view, and do anything about it, and live to enjoy the freedoms you were trying to reinstate.
     
  20. pioneer461

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    Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols should not be put in the same box as Randy Weaver and the Branch Dividians. If McVeigh, Nichols + whomever, wanted to make a political statement, they could have blown up the building at 03:00 hrs. when the building was empty.

    Weaver and Koresh were protecting their homes and liberty from unlawful intrusion by government. Big difference.
     
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