Guns in Restaurants

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Husker_RN, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Husker_RN

    Husker_RN New Member

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    South Carolina legislature is going to consider allowing CWP holders to carry into restaurants that serve alcohol unless the owner of the establishment prohibits firearms. This law would not make it legal to drink alcohol while carrying, but do you think that CWP holders should be allowed to moderately consume while they carry? Just like driving, guns and alcohol generally don't mix in my mind but others may feel differently about this. What do you all think?
     
  2. deadsp0t

    deadsp0t New Member

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    According to what I herd here in NC, the SC law would make it illegal bottom line. Personally .04 would be a good limit, simply my $00.02.. Doubt VERY seriously the law makers will ever allow any alcohol to be consumed..
     

  3. Yunus

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    Drinking impairs judgement so i think carrying and drinking don't mix.

    There is a valid argument to be made that 1 drink won't affect a persons abilities but I don't care, lines need to be drawn and this one is best drawn at no alcohol while carrying. I see no issue with someone being in a place that has alcohol for sale.
     
  4. Warrior1256

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    I don't think that drinking while carrying is a good idea even if legal. First, we are not as careful and not as aware when we are drinking and carrying a firearm is a great responsibility. Second, it would be a propaganda bonanza for the antis. I can hear them now; "Those irresponsible gun people are now getting liquored up and waving their guns around, all decent people in the country are in danger..." and so on and so forth.
     
  5. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Tennessee has a similar law. And the reason you can not drink while carrying is can you imagine the S storm that a slick attorney would make if you had one drink and got into a shooting incident with the liberal AHs out there today. Certainly I would rather be tried by 12 than buried by six. I carry all the time but being of Irish decent and the fact God made us to have a drink. :D I do carry all the time but would have to be a life or death situation before anyone would ever know that I was carrying. With fully knowing the possible issues that could come up by the use or display of a weapon strict discretion is a must. Mostly I carry due to the fact I as many of you, would not want to ever end up in a situation where I would be present and defenseless and see some wacko shoot innocent defenseless people like fish in a barrel! I probably would not set by anyway but the odds are 100% better with a CCW besides the Spring Assist Tactical Knife I always carry.

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  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Wyoming allows CCW in restaurants that serve alcohol, but not in bars and saloons that do not serve full meals.

    I was very skeptical when this passed, but 20 years later if has not caused any problems.

    My gut still says no, but it's hard for my intellect to argue with 20 years of experience.
     
  7. 25-5

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    Alcohol, or any drug, do not mix with firearms. Not under any circumstance. The range, carrying, hunting, or reloading. 0 tolerance. If you think you have a safe limit, you may have to tell it to the judge, and your family.
     
  8. deadsp0t

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    I agree, firearms and drugs(alcohol is a drug) do not mix, but to play devils advocate solely for the sake of discussion of course but I always have my pistol with me, on me or close by, even when I'm at a buddies having a drink, or in the car while I'm eating and having a beer with dinner in restaurant or in the car if I'm at a bar on a Sunday afternoon watching football.. So if someone is intoxicated, the time necessary to go to the car and get a gun is really going to make that much difference in someone making a bad decision.
    Seriously, these laws or restrictions aren't just for ppl with good intentions IMO, they are more for ppl who may be hot headed when intoxicated..
    I guess what I'm getting at is most or the majority of have a gun nearby no matter where we are or what we are doing. I'm sure there are ppl who to themselves 'I'm going out to have a few drinks, I better leave my pistol at home' but I'd wager the majority off ppl take it along anyway..
     
  9. locutus

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    My thought would be that if you're going out to have few drinks, leave it home.

    if you're going out to dinner, and you normally have a beer or a glass (not bottle) of wine, then no problem,.

    To me, this is a common sense issue.
     
  10. Husker_RN

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    I would be concerned that if I had a drink and then had to use a weapon in defense that the risk of having my judgement questioned or opening myself to a civil suit would be greatly increased. And that's also why I never drink and drive, its just not worth it- the risk for harm is just too great. Again as devil's advocate for sake of discussion- I can see the argument that could be made that if its legal to drive a car at a certain blood alcohol and cognition level then maybe the same standard should exist for CWP. But as I tell my kids "just because you can doesn't necessarily mean that you should."
     
  11. Viking

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    Many years ago when the law started coming down heavy on drinking and driving after seeing a few guys get heavy fines for being stopped and didn't pass the breath machine test I just decided it just wasn't worth drinking if I had to drive. Now days they really slap a fine on you as well as having to go to alcohol diversion classes. Carrying concealed is very important to me when we leave home so I'm not about to jeopardize that right by drinking. When I can't carry, as in a hospital, I feel somewhat naked. Anyway about the only place I drink beer, wine or mixed drinks is at home. That may seem boring to some but that's what I've learned to do.
     
  12. kytowboater

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    You can carry in a food establishment in ky. As long as you don't sit in the bar area. Your not allowed to carry in places, or areas of establishments that do 51% of business in alcohol sales.
     
  13. deadsp0t

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    I started carrying 12 years ago when I was repossessing cars, and even though I do not do that anymore it has become part of my normal routine and we should all be able to agree the we as humans are creatures of habit.. Guess it's time to give more thought to when and where I carry..
     
  14. JonM

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    When i was an mp every drunk i pulled over that couldnt stand or walk or was barely concious or suffering from acute alcohol poisining all had one thing beyound being drunk in common... they all had, had only one beverage to drink that nite according to sworn testimony.

    I think even fir driving it should be zero tolerance. So carrying a gun and consuming alcohol is pretty damn stupid and the book should be thrown at you same as driving and even having a sip of alcohol.

    Carrying in a place where alcohol is served as in a bar or restaurant i dont see as an issue if the carry person isnt drinking alcohol.
     
  15. deadsp0t

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    You sir are a perfect example of why I'm loving this forum. :cool: lots of straight up ppl here :cool: