Guns acquired without background checks.

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by danf_fl, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I am curious how many have purchased guns without background check done by an FFL versus those with background checks.

    I am not asking for names, but am looking for a way to compare our data to the 1997 "40%" data quoted by our President and Vice President.

    http://news.yahoo.com/guns-acquired-without-background-checks-160136392.html

    Any suggestions on how to capture the data?
     
  2. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Criminals do it all the time.! I've never had to , always legal,,! ;)

    Just get stats on criminal activities , good place to start..! :confused:
     

  3. TruggieTex

    TruggieTex New Member

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    Confused...

    When the sale is to a buddy, relative, co-worker...etc....both parties have to visit an FFL?
    Pretty sure that ain't happening!
     
  4. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    I have been been given guns as gifts, and those were transfered to me without an FFL. All of the guns I have bought have been through an FFL. I would buy a gun from someone without an FFL, but if I would probably either get a copy of their DL, or go through an FFL anyways.
     
  5. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

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    Every weapon I ever bought was a private sale or inherited, 100% non FFL'd as long as Ive owned them. Every gun I have is still legal in NY (Barely). I always thought my buddies with the cool guns were the lucky ones, now they think I am. Andy won the battle by attacking us like a coward does but he shall not win the war.

    As a old friend of mine used to say," I cant stop you from trying but I can damn sure break you of the habit".
     
  6. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    "In a Jan. 16 speech on gun violence, President Barack Obama, for example, claimed that “as many as 40 percent of all gun purchases are conducted without a background check.” The president’s gun-control plan, “Now Is The Time,” also says that “studies estimate that nearly 40 percent of all gun sales are made by private sellers who are exempt from this requirement.”

    Just how accurate is the 40%? How would you determine what percentage has been conducted without a background check?

    The 40% quoted does not indicate whether the buyers are legal or not. Exempt could include those buyers that can "claim the 5th amendment".
     
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  7. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Green with envy here , nobody ever gave me a gun or ammo , just cologne..! :mad::D What , whaaaaat..? I smell a-foul..? :confused:
     
  8. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Wasn't there a poll on this before, or was that on TFL?

    Regardless, I have a few firearms that I legally purchased without being required to do the NICS background check. I've bought a few at gunshows from non-FFL individuals and a few that were given to me. All legal, and I did pass the NICS background check for the GP100 & CZ75b purchase a couple of years ago.

    At the gunshow purchase on my SKS, dude did ask to see an in-state ID and did ask if I was prohibited or had a felony.
     
  9. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    OK , more specifically , (HAND GUNS) , where do we stand there..?
     
  10. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    My most recent acquisition was a gift from my dear sweet mother, purchased from Goosebump's house of Grift AKA GanderMounting.
     
  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Would it be safe to say that our administration has been stating an unproven fact?
     
  12. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a number of guns that I purchased at FFL dealers BEFORE the Brady bunch bill required NICS checks. I have a few that were private sales and a couple of gift/give away guns.

    If only 60% of the guns in circulation today were purchased post Brady, then yes the other 40% were transferred w/o background checks.
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Is there a way to gather data without nosing in someone's personal info?

    How would one go about saying "On this day in January 2010, 1200 firearms were transferred through an FFL holder and 300 firearms were transferred without a background check" and being able to prove it?
     
  14. rachilders

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    Pretty much the same for me. ALL guns I've purchased though dealers or retailers have been done using the proper paperwork and required backround checks. OTOH, I have purchased a few firearms from individuals I know as well as sold a few over the years and no background checks were done (or required) since they were "private" sales. FYI, would I buy a gun from someone I don't know personally... maybe. Would I sell a firearm to someone I don't know... no.
     
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  15. Daoust_Nat

    Daoust_Nat Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have bought and given my daughter two guns without FFL. She does however hold a Florida CCW, so I am pretty sure we don't need to worry about her being not allowed to have the guns.

    Actually, I got one of them back when I bought her the second one........but I guess that doesn't count.
     
  16. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I had not considered life before Brady. I bought my Mossberg shotgun in 1995, and I remember only filling out a small yellow card when I bought it at the gun&pawn. I suppose that was before Brady went into effect? Either that, or that card has been SERIOUSLY revised into the current multi-page form.
     
  17. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I have had "delay" on one CWP holder. It was cleared within 48 hours, but background check still has to be done in Florida. The CWP only by-passes the 3 day waiting if the NICS comes back approved.
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    of all my firearms, only a couple were done in private sales or trades. all the rest have gone through an FFL.

    IMO, i don't think they could accurately estimate the number of legal private sales, done without going through an FFL.
     
  19. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Well , under the new (Feinstein)friendly , Patriot Act approved , for "YOUR SAFETY" , and whom would no better what is "GOOD" for us than ole UNCLE BOLSHEVIK SAM..?
    Tis your honorable "DUTY" to inform said officials of ALL firearms , ammo , purchases via , a smiley face post-card along with SS No. , Pictured ID , Address , Stool and Urine samples , finger prints and ALL other pertinent info !

    THANK and YES , we are watching..! :D :p
     
  20. chrishiggin29

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    I've only bought 1 gun in a private sale. All the rest at LGS