gun safe options or styles

Discussion in 'Gun Safes' started by Armed-Citizen, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    would it be considered safe to put a rifle in a gun case with a lock on it? im referring to "keep firearms out of kids reach"
    or you have to have it in a safe to be considered "out of kids reach?"
     
  2. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    A locked hard case can be considered safe from kids, as long as no kids get access to it. In some places having a trigger lock installed on the firearm will suffice. It depends on where you live.

    Here in CA we are required to have an approved gun safe capable of housing the gun we are purchasing. Those Stack-On or Homack sheet-metal gun lock boxes do not fulfill the requirement.
     

  3. fupuk

    fupuk New Member

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    For me i have handguns that get kept in a safe unless im going to the range. My long guns are locked in a safe in my closet of my bedroom. I have a Mossberg 500 right next to my bed for when i go to sleep and that has never been "locked up" and it never will be. Recently ive been carrying my Glock so that hasnt been put in a safe or unloaded in a few months. Granted i do take my glock with me to the range so the rounds are fresh. But for my carry weapon when i go to sleep its right next to me and never unloaded. And my wife always has her S&W 638 in her purse all the time if shes not carrying it on her hip.
     
  4. fmj

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    I would not recommend a gun case for long term storage...unless you dont mind marring the finish of the gun that is.

    I am assuming we are discussing a hard side case...the foam attracts and holds moisture right on the metal surface. BAD news in a long term situation.
     
  5. Colby

    Colby New Member

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    Hope you guys expand on this and give some recommendations for home gun safes. I live alone and have a number of guns - long and short - not locked up. I would like to change that. Any suggestions are welcome - just don't propose a bank quality type and valued one....
     
  6. fupuk

    fupuk New Member

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    If your looking for a locking gun cabinet look at stack-on gun cabinets. They are basicly a big metal box with a lock on it. If your looking for a gun safe that will hold up to a house fire your options are limitless depending on how many firearms you own and how many more you will get. My father in law bought a 16 long gun cabinet from gander mountain for i belive $200 and it works for him. Now when i go looking for a "big" gun safe i will be going shopping with no less than $2000 and getting the biggest baddest one i can afford that weights 1000lbs and will last hours in a house fire. Ive been looking at some at my local gun store and they are pricey but will last a life time. Look at stack-ons web site and see if they have anything your looking for..
     
  7. silverado113

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  8. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    thanks for the replies so far,maybe i didn't describe correctly my intention. one has to have firearms locked up or out of reach if there's children present. so for this situation, would having a hard gun case locked be considered locked or having them in a gun safe be considered locked?
    the duration the firearms would be locked for would be only when children are present (say: half a day, every day)
     
  9. Armed-Citizen

    Armed-Citizen New Member

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    right now i just have them in gun cases that have i believe have some type of fur inside. they have no locks, ony the zipper is whats between the firearm and the persons hand.
    i will check out stack ons site right now
     
  10. drvsafe

    drvsafe New Member

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    Don't bother with a trigger lock they come off laughingly easy. Stack on cabinets are good for what they are. Worst case keep it on the case with a CA approved lock, that should work until you get something better.
     
  11. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    If you are looking to meet a state requirement that says you have to have your gun locked up then yes, a locked gun case would meet that requirement IMO but consult local laws.
     
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  12. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    If you are trying to fulfill a legal requirement then you cannot rely on the opinions expressed here. That having been said, you need to tell us more about your situation such as where, specifically, are you located? It makes a difference if you are located in Chicago, New York Cuty, or San Francisco for instance. If not in a highly restrictive city, then state and county should suffice.

    Here in Santa Clara County, CA I am required to have an "approved" gun safe in order to purchase and take possession of any gun, period. Those sheet metal Stack-On cabinets do not meet the requirement.

    If a child gains access to any gun that you own, you can (but not necessarily will) be held criminally liable for that.

    Perhaps this story that was in today's paper may help:

    http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-co...tors-wont-charge-san-jose-police-officer-sons
     
  13. orangello

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    I have a Liberty brand gun safe sold through Gander Mountain. It takes up a lot of room, should be bolted to the subfloor, required specialized delivery (three BIG guys and a weird hand truck $200), and is very, very secure and fire-resistant for maybe 45 minutes at some temperature or other. I would have been OK with a Stack-On gun cabinet, i bleve. I don't have, want, or harbor kids in my home. I keep the pump shotgun beside my alarm clock and the rest in the safe nearby. I like trigger locks of the padlock persuasion; i have one on a footlocker and a couple on fence gates, very handy.

    User locations no longer show by our screennames; legal requirements vary GREATLY by jurisdiction. I would consult the local police or child protective services, as John Smith.



    My sympathies comrade Vikingdad. :(
     
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  14. Vikingdad

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    The requirement is not a problem for me. I have had a safe since before the laws took effect so all I have to do is sign an affidavit stating so when I buy a gun. Personally I am more concerned about having my guns secured against thieves (including those who would be thieves from the government) than anything else really. I keep my guns safe from my kids using education and instilling knowledge, not locks.

    If your sympathy is of the broader sense because I live in CA, I appreciate it. I hope that one day things will change here, as the only (and I do mean only) problems I have with my home state are of the political and intrusive government sort:(.
     
  15. clr8ter

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    I was going to say that I could have sworn the Stack-on cabinet I just bought said "CA DOJ approved". But I saw you mentioned Santa Clara County specifically later on. Each county can adjust the rules? Here in NH there are no such rules. You go to the gun shop, and buy a gun, as long as you're not a felon. Done. End of story.
     
  16. Ultimate_sig

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    I have a sentry 14 gun safe i got for $350 or so. I wanted the fireproofed one just cause it has thr shelf. But im gunma build soe shelfs and instal a rope light. Iys a good safe i love the digital

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    input and a back up key entry
     
  17. Vikingdad

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    Don't go braggin' on how good the gun laws in your state and how sucky they are her. Its just not polite!:mad:

    You might very well be right, Stack On may make an "approved" safe these days, my information is quite stale as I have always had a qualified safe. If it says CA DOJ Approved it probably is.

    Don't know if I mentioned it in this thread yet but a friend of mine passed away earlier this year and I helped his wife get his safe opened. It was one of those digital keypad locks, we called the company, they sent a tech over to open it and he had it open in literally 5 seconds or less using an app on his Smart Phone:eek:.

    Charged $350 for the service.
     
  18. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    Wow...really, i dnt even know what to say to that
     
  19. fupuk

    fupuk New Member

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    When i get my big boy safe i only want a spin dial combination lock. They are time tested and no electronics involved with the locking mechanism. I dont want the person trying to break into my safe to have a app on his phone that makes it a 5sec job to get it open. Just like my truck way to many electronics involved.
     
  20. firedawg60

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    I've got a 13 gun stack on with the combi. Wish I would have gotten a larger one, but it's working for what I need. It's a good safe.