Gun Confiscation

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by improvised_prepper, Jul 28, 2013.

  1. improvised_prepper

    improvised_prepper New Member

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    http://fxn.ws/13eVssi

    To all those that said a national gun registry would lead to confiscation, well here it is. Does anyone have any other info on this?
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    from reading the story, it involves revoked FOID cards and confiscations of those guns alone. my biggest concern or question would be, why were these FOID cards revoked in the first place? mentioned mental illness and such, so maybe these people should be in possession of a firearm in the first place.

    just thinking out loud. now i for one do not want to see a national registration or a widespread confiscation by any means, but i also think many of us will agree that there are those who should not be able to purchase or be in possession of firearms due to certain mental illness' and criminal behaviour. now is what they are doing right and proper? is this the correct way of getting guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them?

    for me, this brings as many questions as it does answers. very curious to see some other viewpoints on this subject.
     

  3. gr8oldguy

    gr8oldguy New Member

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    This is not random confiscation of firearms. Did you read the article?
     
  4. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    If someone becomes a felon, then I could see confiscation. If they are committed to a mental institution I could see it then too. Other than that it would go to far. I find it a disgrace that any government feels they have the right to require a permit to exercise your constitutional rights. Do you need a special ID to speak there too? How about going to church?
     
  5. DFlynt

    DFlynt New Member

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    Don't give them ideas...
     
  6. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    From reading the article, they notify them by mail that their FOID is revoked. That means that the officials aren't too worried about them still owning the gun or what they might do with it upon receiving the letter. What would be the problem with letting the revoked owner turning the weapon over to an FFL for sale? Obviously, since the didn't send a SWAT team to revoke the FOID, they don't see them as an immediate danger. They should allow disposal of the weapon by the owner so he can at least recover the value. 35 weapons seized at one home? Man, are the deputies going to have a fun weekend!
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    one thing i think, and these are just my thoughts, that if a person is defined as mentally unstable to have his FOID card revoked, then instead of confiscation of their firearms, they should be held in trust in the event that the person recieves medical treatment, that if pronounced by a doctor that they are safe to resume possession of a firearm that they are returned to the rightful owner. in the case someone had their FOID card revoked due to felony, then they should be allowed to sell or dispose of them to recoup their investment, and the state should never confiscate without any compensation.

    so begs the question, when the state does confiscate because of a revoked FOID card, what is the status of those firearms? how are they disposed of? sold? destroyed? pilfered by the officers? IMO, any officer caught with a firearm that was confiscated from someone that had their FOID card revoked, ought to be charged with felony theft and misuse of official conduct.
     
  8. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Agreement with the motivation for confiscation does not negate the infringement. People break laws and pay their debts and serve their time. If recidivism is the issue, then that is what needs to be addressed. And I don't want the government deciding who is healthy enough to exercise a right.
     
  9. jp_over

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    It is an interesting question to ask about the status of the confiscated firearms, i.e. "what happens to them?"

    What's more interesting is who decides the criteria for confiscation or revoking one's FOID card? Political statements made online? PTSD? Depression? Once more, who decides that a person is "fit " again? Is this the state of IL or is there even a system in place to get one's permit back?

    Yet another reason to not live in and not purchase anything from states that support this type of "in the name of public safety" attacks on gun owners.
     
  10. steadyshot

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  11. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i too have questions about what it takes to get a FOID card revoked, and who and how it's determined.

    maybe someone from Illinois will chime in and clarify things in that state in regards to the FOID card.
     
  12. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I do not believe that felons or people who are a danger to themselves or others do not need to have guns. Any time a cop takes a firearm from a felon, or other prohibited person, it is of benefit to all law abiding gun owners.
     
  13. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    All felons? What about non-violent felons?

    I think there should, at least, be an annual review of criminal activity vs. responsibility as a basis for the restoration of their second amendment right. Make it an optional program; limit it to longarms; require their firearms be registered and painted yellow; but give them some chance of being a full citizen again.

    One of the problems with many repeat offenders is the lack of legal options for employment and, in some cases, housing. If you can't move up, you have better odds of slipping down.
     
  14. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    Any law that requires a permission slip to own a firearm then it is not a right, it's a privilege. It's no different than a drivers license.
     
  15. Mongo

    Mongo Active Member Supporter

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    It's what happens when you choose to live in illinois, calif or any other anti gun state.
     
  16. Warrior1256

    Warrior1256 New Member

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    Registration leading to confiscation????I'm shocked, shocked I say!!!!!
     
  17. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Don't forget the blossoming commierado.
     
  18. Daoust_Nat

    Daoust_Nat Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Hey, if you have legitimately lost the ability to legally possess a firearm, I guess I have no problem with instructions being issued to turn them in, sell them, or otherwise dispose of them. If you don't do that, or cannot provide proof of it, I guess you are subject to a raid and confiscation.

    Now if the reason is debateable, and challangeable, then you should be able to keep your guns until it is finally determined. Not dispossed of them, but in "innocent until proven guilty," able to maintain possession.
     
  19. WNGMSTR

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    Why would a known felon have a gun on the radar? Except for the totally inept any felon would not have a registered gun......traceable to them.