Gun confiscation during Hurricane Katrina

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Bigcountry02, May 11, 2014.

  1. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    Watch the video's.

    Part I:

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    Part II:

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  2. TekGreg

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    Only about 10% of guns were returned because NOPD insisted on a sales receipt or affidavit that had the weapon's serial number on it. Since Katrina flooded 80% of the city, not many paper records were available. I don't understand why the police didn't issue receipts for what they confiscated. The NRA sued NOPD for their negligence and heavy-handed tactics, but it still didn't return the weapons.

    As usual, those with the badges make the rules. What is a law-abiding citizen supposed to do when they'll rough up little old ladies and break their bones for voluntarily producing an unloaded weapon when asked? The only chance of getting them back is taking photos and recording serial numbers on digital media to survive flooding. At least then you may have a chance at getting them back or at least their value when you file a theft claim with your insurance company.
     

  3. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    as bad as it was after Katrina, and it was bad, imagine now this scenario being played out across the entire country, if martial law was declared for whatever reason.

    yep, that scares me.

    IIRC, and if i'm mistaken please correct me, but if the president declares martial law across the country, he can remain in power until that order is remanded.
     
  4. John_Deer

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    A lot of people who lost guns after Katrina never came back to claim them. Most people who could leave New Orleans took their guns with them. If you have ever been to NO you would not leave your guns during a hurricane evacuation. You know everything in town would be looted before they let you back in the city.

    After Katrina a lot of the looting was more survival than trying to get something for personal gain. Other than than the Walmart that was looted most of the looting was done by NOPD. Very few people other than NOPD had a running vehicle to carry away the goods. The only cars that were not flooded were in parking decks or out of town.
     
  5. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    and how can you claim ownership of guns that were confiscated with nothing to prove they belong to you? you can't.

    most of the scenes of looters weren't looting for survival, but for simple profit. LE was stretched thin in many areas and the criminals and the thugs came out to play. carrying out flat screen TV's isn't survival JD.
     
  6. Holmes375

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    The whole Katrina scenario should serve as an incredible lesson to the apt student of survival and self reliance in modern America.

    It can happen in America... it has happened in America.
     
  7. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    Simplicity. Higher altitude is always better for many reasons.


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  8. WebleyFosbery38

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    Yup, I may get blown off the hill but I will never get washed off it!

    Katrina turned a buddy of mine from a lifelong Liberal to a semi conservative with over 50 guns in a very short time. I remember him asking me about the confiscations in Nola and saying WTF????? When he realized the promise of Uncle Sugar saving the day was as weak as the gravity on the moon, he armed himself and never looked back. Since then he's moved further right than many of my conservative friends.

    Never heard anyone angrier than when he was forced by Andy's Safe Act to move his new Weapons with 2 or more military features out of state to his daughters house to protect his investment and inheritance to his kids.

    Times are changing but those changing time have brought about changing attitudes as well. I have been noticing that folks that never cared one way or another about firearm ownership get interested once someone says they cant have what they never wanted before, now they are changing their tune. Ive never known someone pro 2A that tuned Anti 2a but I know many that have moved from not caring to participating in principle and deed.
     

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  9. alsaqr

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    Look at the gun confiscation in New Orleans after Katrina from the perspective of political and police corruption: It's about power.

    LA in general, and New Orleans in particular, have been bastions of political corruption for at least 100 years. The NOPD has been under a federal consent decree because of police abuses of its citizens. There are numerous cases of NOPD cops committing murder.

    http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/len_davis/index.html

    http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20101738,00.html

    http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/4/13/doj-and-nopd.html
     
  10. locutus

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    My wife was born and raised in N.O.

    When she was a child, de Lesseps Morrison was mayor. Owned and operated by "Silver Dollar Sam" Corolla of the mafia. (Morrison was later appointed ambassador the the OAS, by Jimmy "Cahta" and helped in the Panama Canal giveaway.) Things were bad.

    Then Moon Landrieu (Sen, Mary Landrieu's father) was elected, and he made Morrison look like a boy scout.

    They've gone down hill ever since.

    Do I feel any sympathy for the people that elected Morrison, Landrieu, Morial, and Nagan??? Hell no! They dug their own cesspool, let them wallow in it.:mad:
     
  11. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    However, you have to ask yourself anytime a corrupt politician takes office if he got there legitimately or was the vote also corrupt? It's a chicken/egg argument, but you have to realize that if government is corrupt, the people may never have got the politician they voted for.
     
  12. mseric

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    I have/had a few life long friends that went the same route for similar reason.

    Ex-Liberals that saw what was happening to America and decided to do something about it, or did they.

    One individual,a friend for over 35 years(My son is even named after him), woke up and decided he needed to learn about and own firearms. Over the course of 3 years he purchased several handguns, ARs in various calibers, shotguns and bolt action rifles, he even got his permit to carry. I spend hours and days with him and his firearms teaching him and tuning his weapons, and I mean hours/days.

    One day he shows up at my house to pick up one of his ARs that I installed a free floating handgaurd on. The POS had an Obama bumper sticker on his truck. This was just before the 2012 election.

    We got into a discussion about the 2nd Amendment, Obama and the Democrats and he agreed with everything I said. "Why do you think I want all these guns and ammo"? he asked. I said, "then why the bumper sticker" and "why the support for the very thing you are concerned about"?

    Answer:

    "I will never vote for a Republican no matter what, I can't, they are against the workin man and I'm a workin man." "If it wasn't for the Democrats there would be no good paying jobs".

    I cased up his gun gave him all his other parts and pieces and said good bye, don't come back.

    My point, just because your friends and neighbors, talk the talk, doesn't mean they bring that to the voting booth.
     
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  13. willshoum

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    Wrong..............

    The cops took every gun they could. Including the guns from pawn shops and stores. 90% left with stolen guns and cars never to be heard from again.............I sat on my porch with a 12 gauge loaded...........The cops were non existant., or the looters.............Not if but when..............:mad::mad::mad: My hats off to the National Gaurd here in the parrish..................
     
  14. Eagle1803

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    a 12 gauge would be good for NOPD:D
     
  15. TekGreg

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    Mseric, that took real guts to end a friendship that long over principals. I probably would've asked him for proof of that statement and, when he couldn't provide statistical evidence of it, bombarded him with facts. However, I like to get into those long, drawn out arguments! :rolleyes:
     
  16. clr8ter

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    That's harsh, to end a 35 year friendship over political views. I hope I have the good sense, if the time ever comes, NOT to go down that road. There ARE things in life more important than guns, you know...
     
  17. Eagle1803

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    Hey, in my book if a person don't share the same political views as I do they are most likely towards the left and with that said, the person needs to say off my welcome Mat.

    I do not associate with libtards, 35 years or not when it gets sour you spit it out and I can't blame him.

    We have a couple of Obama lovers on my mothers side of the family. during get togethers they keep the pie hole closed, they know better:D
     
  18. DrFootball

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    Thats too Bad. I was starting to like the story. I'm sure a lot of people felt that way at one time or another. Whats also sad is people confuse Politics with "Right and Wrong." Politics do not work off of "Right or Wrong," They are political policies. If that's really what he believes, then the "battle" for him and trying to "get some sense" into him is already lost.

    You May see Bumper Stickers on the back of my Escape, but none of them support a Political Candidate.

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  19. mseric

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    There is Nothing more important than this Country and the Constitution, nothing.
     
  20. clr8ter

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    Really? Not your wife? Not your kids? You must make a hundred trips to the crapper a day to piss out that Kool-Aid. If this Country abandoned you and left you for dead, your loved ones probably would not. The constitution, yeah, it's important, but there are other countries whose citizens might argue they like, given their version of a constitution.