GSG 1911 22 or Ruger mkIII 22/45

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by PSYCHOFREAK3, Feb 17, 2011.

  1. PSYCHOFREAK3

    PSYCHOFREAK3 New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    Still kinda new to the forum, but I am in the process of looking into a firearms safety course and looking for a 22. I currently have a G19 but need something smaller to plink with and for my wife to learn easier on. My options at this point are the GSG 1911 22 for $350 or a mkIII 22/45 for about $280.

    Initially I like the GSG for the classic look and feel. I am not exactly fond of the mkIII look and feel. However I do not know much about either pistol, and while I can afford both I am still cost conscious. Any comments and recommendations welcome.
     
  2. jca1

    jca1 New Member

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    For me it would be the Ruger because of it's proven track record.

    Don't know anything about the GSG.
     

  3. JonM

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    ive got a ruger mkII and a gsg on backorder. the ruger is real picky about ammo. its a good gun but it just feels clumsy. im really looking forward to the gsg getting here.
     
  4. russ

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    I would add the Buckmark .22lr to your list. When I was looking at the MkIII vs. the Buckmark, it was how the Ruger fit my hand, or more precisely how it didn't fit my hand that made my decision for the Buckmark. It is pretty price competitive with the Ruger.

    However, I also have the GSG 1911 and I love that thing. So far mine is not ammo picky at all (but neither is my Buckmark) and has been super reliable.

    I really think you can't go wrong with any of these .22 pistols. If you really intend on teaching your wife to shoot with whatever you buy, then take her with you and see what you both feel comfortable with in your hands. That will go a long way towards helping you find the right gun for you both.
     
  5. MemphisJim1

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    I do not have a GSG...yet. But I do have a Ruger MkII 22/45. I currently have a red dot on it (soon to be superceded by a reflex sight) and hands down it is my most accurate rimfire pistol. Mine is not ammo picky, it just has a voracious appetite for anything I feed it. The only reservation I have about it has to do with cleaning it. Taking it apart for cleaning is a snap. Putting it back together is the challenge. In my early days with it, I could count on a minimum of 1 hour and at least 7 attempts before it was properly back together and ready for the next shooting session. As the years have gone by, I'm setting a new personal best for reassembly. Just last week I had it down to only 2 attempts in 15 minutes to victory. What the manual doesn't tell you is how to have your lips pursed "just so" as well as which appropriate facial expressions and correct incantations are in order at each reassembly step. I'm sure the GSG can't compare in that regard. That said, I love my MkII 22/45, use it frequently to introduce new pistol shooters and get a lot of personal trigger time with it, too. It's a great pistol...just "quirky" on the reassembly side.
     
  6. M14sRock

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    From a former "Rockfordian" to a current "Rockfordian", I'd buy the GSG.

    BUT, the Ruger 22/45 is the Ruger that I like best.

    Or, you could buy a Ciener conversion kit for your G19.
     
  7. russ

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    Whoa, I didn't even see where psychofreak3 is from. Nor did I realize you're from there M14. I grew up north of Belvidere, one set of grandparents lived in Roscoe, and the other right on Riverside Blvd. Small world sometimes.
     
  8. CHLChris

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    On my list right now, at #1 is the Ruger 22/45 MarkIII 5.5" bull barrel, but I'm willing to have my mind changed.

    I have 2 purposes for 1 gun:

    -I'm tired of paying for factory .45 ammo to punch holes in paper. I'd like to go to .22lr and definitely want a dedicated gun, not a conversion.

    -I'd like to be able to have a small-game hunting gun in my BOB and it might as well be .22lr handgun since that would fit better than a long gun.

    Question about GSG: Does the accuracy compare to the Ruger?

    I am a 1911 guy so having the exact same platform would be GREAT for training purposes.
     
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  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    The only problem I see with buying a GSG is:

    Once you own a 1911 style pistol, you want more.
     
  10. M14sRock

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    I grew up outside of Roscoe in an area called "The Ledges".
     
  11. russ

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    Holy crap, small world. I used to ride/show at the stables as a kid and those stables are currently owned by some old friends of the family. I lived on Caledonia Road right next to Kinnikinnick Park.

    To psycho and Chris, I find the GSG to be surprisingly accurate, I am easily the weak link in the equation. If you want to split hairs, the Ruger is probably more accurate and repeatable if you were to put both on a bench, but shooting off hand I think you would be hard pressed to see the difference.

    Did I mention that I love my GSG?
     
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  12. M14sRock

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    Haha. I lived on Bond Dr., and went to Kinnikinnick School.
     
  13. CHLChris

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    If the GSG 1911 is pretty close in accuracy to the Ruger, it sounds like the benefits of the 1911 platform (especially cleaning!!!!) would make the scales tip in favor of the GSG.

    I think I'll start keeping my eyes out for a good used one. Anybody have an extra one? PM me and I'll buy it immediately!!
     
  14. PSYCHOFREAK3

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    Well Russ and M14 it surely is a small world. I am familiar with where you both are from. And like you both I plan on moving out of the area sooner rather than later, but it's pure coincidence im sure :D I got a chance to fondle both guns and I must say the GSG feels wonderful. At this point with my wife she is still very, lets say shy to the gun world so once I get broken in on the .22 I will get her out and make her a little more familiar.

    Unfortunately I got the funds but I still can't make up my mind. Of course I love the styling and feel of the GSG, but I am still relatively new to owning and maintaining my own firearms but all that I hear is Ruger reliability is pretty amazing. I am still pretty torn, but I appreciate everyones responses.
     
  15. russ

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    Well, I still think that you can't make a bad purchase here. You either end up with one great .22 pistol or another. But, like Chris said, the edge for ease of cleaning goes to the GSG. The Ruger (and other blowback operated rimfire pistols) are complex to disassemble for a deep clean.
     
  16. PSYCHOFREAK3

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    Well I decided to go with the Ruger MKIII 22/45. I figure my next fun plinker will be the GSG 1911-22. I wanted to thank all of you for your opinions and advice, which just ended up continuing my habit. There I think that is step one of the recovery process, admitting you have a problem.
     
  17. mesinge2

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    I am planning on picking up a GSG next week. If I do, I'll post a range report.

    I still owe you guys a review of my Kimber (hopefully next week!!)
     
  18. jimjc

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    This is a Browning Contour 5.5 one of the rimfires I have and I like it very much, great trigger, well balanced. I don`t have to do any customizing, it`s all there....Jim



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  19. jimjc

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    Trying to get the picture size right, sorry it wont work


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