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Just joined the forum today, living in the UK. Proud owner of Ruger 10/22 and Marlin 1894CB Limited. Hoping to learn from you all and contributing to the forum in time.
 

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Welcome !

Try not to be offended by what we've done to the language... :D
 

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Welcome, Fitzy. The official language here is "bad English".

Some news reports over here are talking about some (localized?) crime increases involving firearms in the U.K. and the desire to draft more gun-control laws. How is it over there, really?
 

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Hi,

There has been a marked increase in gun crime in recent years. As argued at the time the handgun ban only effects the law abiding and the criminals carry on regardless.

One of the main problems is the influx of guns from the poor Eastern European countries that are now part of the European Union so border restrictions are more lax.

However instead of tackling border control and harsher penalties for the criminals, the Politicians choose the populist 'lets ban it approach'. We have the stricted gun control in the World. Now the powers that be want to ban replica and deactivated firearms and swords. In Scotland there is also a wish to ban airguns. As the handgun ban in 1997 prove there is no correlation between legally and illegally held firearms in their use in crime.

London is to host the Olympics 2012. Unfortunately the citizens of the country are unable to shoot the pistol disciplines. The British team have to keep their pistols and practice abroad. It is all an absolute farce and can only see it getting worse.
 

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Your comments mirror the reports we're seeing. What do the majority of the people think about gun control laws and their effectiveness (or lack thereof)?
 

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Unfortunately as perpetrated by the media it is always the weapon that is concentrated on when reporting crime ie the knife or the gun and not the offender. It is the lawlessness and disorder than needs addressing, family breakdown, social exclusion, mass immigration, multi ethnic communies and integration, lack of dicipline in schools and fatherless children. Police with their hands tied back with red tape, targets and political correctness. Could go on and on...

Banning everything is just populist media fodder used by the Politicians to claim they're being tough on crime and imposing new laws the Police are unable to enforce. I just hope that the general public know better. The Labour Government have made a right old mess, unfortunately the opposition parties are just as weak.

The country is going to hell in a handbasket
 

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I hoped for better news, but really it's not a surprise. I'm sorry to hear it -- the U.K. is an outstanding country whose heritage must be preserved. I hope Brits are up to the task; it doesn't sound like it will be easy.

Do you have any suggestions for us? What to do and what not to do?
 

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How easy is it to emigrate? Friends of mine recently packed up and moved to Australia and other friends are applying for employment in New York. Not so worried abourt myself but concern is for my three young children. The UK is changing too fast with mass immigration and large Muslim communites developing.

My advice is maintain a strick immigration policy and don't let the Government infringe your civil liberties so that have been so hardly fought for in the past.
 

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How easy is it to emigrate?
It's easy if you're from Central America. Mexicans and folks from other CA countries cross our southern border by the thousands every day. Law enforcement does nothing

Friends of mine recently packed up and moved to Australia and other friends are applying for employment in New York. Not so worried abourt myself but concern is for my three young children. The UK is changing too fast with mass immigration and large Muslim communites developing.
That's unfortunate.

My advice is maintain a strick immigration policy and don't let the Government infringe your civil liberties so that have been so hardly fought for in the past.
We do neither. Most people are furious at the lax enforcement of strict policies, but the government keeps telling us to screw off. The front-runner candidates for President believe in amnesty for 13-20 million illegal aliens and don't sound terribly convincing when they talk about border control.

The Constitution is being abused with some regularity these days, particularly the Bill of Rights. Free speech, free press, and freedom of religious expression are currently under attack. Freedom to own firearms, of course, is always under attack.
 
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