Great quote from Ann Coulter

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by cnorman18, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. cnorman18

    cnorman18 New Member

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    I'm reading Ann Coulter's book, "How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)," and I ran across a great quote:

    "When they're running for office, all Democrats claim to support tax cuts (for the middle class), to support gun rights (for hunters), and to "personally oppose" abortion. And then they get into office and vote to raise taxes, ban guns, and allow abortions if a girl can't fit into her prom dress.
    "The common wisdom holds that "both parties" have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."

    If you're a conservative and you've never read Coulter's column, you're missing some great commentary--and some great belly laughs. There's no one better at exposing liberal hypocrisy and illogic with sharp, right-on-the-money remarks and observations. Liberals hate her guts--and that's reason enough to read her, right there.
     
  2. BLS33

    BLS33 New Member Supporter

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    I'm as conservative as they come and absolutely HATE Ann Coulter. She is nothing more than a hateful worthless pundit in my mind.
     

  3. cnorman18

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    why?

    What has she written that you disagree with?

    Sounds to me like you've read more of what other people say ABOUT her than what she has to say herself.
     
  4. BLS33

    BLS33 New Member Supporter

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    I try and make it a habit to not read her drivel. But I have heard her say that she supports the killing of innocent civilians to win the war in Iraq. She also attacks people in any type of opposition to her with childish tactics, not taking on the issues but taking it to a personal level. Calling John Edwards a certain expletive referring to homosexuals and defending it calling it a school yard taunt :rolleyes: She is a sharp women but she deals in hate and I'm not interested in it.
     
  5. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    I agree that Ann Coulter is a hack. I've read her column and it's a complete hook, line and sinker writing style. She writes to get readers, not to express true thoughts. Same with Sean Hannity. Rush I listen to and like but those two; Coulter and Hannity, complete frauds, say whatever, write whatever just to get ratings.
     
  6. cnorman18

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    I'll ask again:

    Again: What has she written that you disagree with? Or what has she said that you don't think is a "true thought"?

    She quite deliberately writes to provoke and inflame liberals, who can typically respond only with insults (much like I've read here, oddly enough). I think of Coulter as the exact counterpart of Al Franken and Randi Rhodes--except that
    Coulter doesn't lie like a bear rug, as they do. She is often deliberately misquoted and lied ABOUT, though.

    Hateful? Well, she pisses liberals off without mercy, generally by exposing their hypocrisy, deceptions, and outright lies. She's routinely denounced as "hateful" by people who think Franken and Rhodes are funny as hell. For myself, I think SHE is as funny as hell--and if she makes the liberals spitting-mad, that's just fine with me.

    So, again: What has she said that you don't like, and why?
     
  7. BLS33

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    I cited 2 things she has said that I either disagree with or is hateful.
     
  8. cnorman18

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    "But I have heard..."

    As I thought, you're reading what others have said about her and not her own words.

    David Letterman once told Bill O'Reilly that he thought about 60% of what he said was crap--then admitted he'd never watched the show. In other words, he was going by what the (overwhelmingly liberal) press told him. How are you different?

    I'll stand by my opinion; when you've read more of her work, I'll be happy to discuss yours. Till then, it's not really your opinion anyway, is it? It's someone else's.

    I wrote my original post to encourage conservatives who haven't read her work to read it--not to invite comment from those who refuse to.
     
  9. notdku

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    All she is is a shock writer. She regurgitates borrowed commentary just in new form to get a rise. It's not her underlying message, it's her writing style. She's exactly the same as the Far-Left media nuts just trying to get a rise out of people so people read her column so she can cash in plus sell her books.

    I know it's surprising to you but there are people like us out there who hate the Left but can't stand these Right media nuts as well who use the same tactics soley to cash in on the growing divide caused a lot in part by Far Left and Far Right media.

    They listen to Rush in the morning then create a spin on his thoughts to get their own coverage. Hacks.
     
  10. BLS33

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    Well whoever this was did a great job impersonating her:
    [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=SCeqZLrhkvQ[/ame]

    And this:
    [ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=60xDmowdTCA[/ame]

    Both instances I eluded right there from her mouth to our ears.
     
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    http://www.anncoulter.com/ every Thursday.

    Her writing style is admittedly ascerbic; she has a biting wit that can put off many people. I find her stories amusing but rarely informative (because she writes about stuff that happened in the previous week).
     
  12. notdku

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    We have read her work. Maybe not every single thing like you. Seems like your just like the same people you preach against. If someone disagrees with your opinion then they aren't informed enough or just dumb. Sorry to bust your bubble that not all Conservatives like Ann Coulter.
     
  13. cnorman18

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    correction...

    No; you cited 2 things you HEARD that she said, both out of context and ignoring Coulter's comments on the matter.

    Coming on the heels of John Edwards' famous $400 haircut, the "******" remark was pretty clearly a joke; in poor taste perhaps, but the press ran with it as if she had actually, seriously called him a homosexual. That's laughable. I find the objections to even a tasteless joke pretty hard to take from people who routinely, and with deadly seriousness (i.e., NOT joking), call our President a liar, a corrupt schemer, a murderer, a mental defective, a war criminal, a Fascist, a new Hitler, and much worse without even attracting the notice of the press. In that context, I think pointing out the preciousness of Edwards' personal vanity doesn't quite amount to hate speech.

    On the matter of "killing civilians," this is the last paragraph of the column you may be referring to. Notice the date.

    "Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and concert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
    --September 12, 2001

    I suspect a lot of us said similar things on that date. But I'll bet wherever you read she said that, the date wasn't mentioned.

    I'd like to see some actual quotes from her actual columns that people disagree with, as opposed to allusions to things they've HEARD she said.
     
  14. BLS33

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    None of these are things someone told me she said, it is all things I've seen and heard her say. Sure the remark she made was a joke why does that make it different? So lets say some white guy (clearly being white as clear as Edwards is heterosexual) is called the N word for liking fried chicken or some other racial stereotype, that to me is pretty much the same as Coulter calling him a "******" for his $400 haircut. I was not referring to any article for when she said she supports killing civilians it was on hardball, I watched the whole thing so it was not out of context.
     
  15. cnorman18

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    sorry...

    Sorry, I can't respond to that. I can't see it. I don't have a computer; I do this on my BlackBerry, and it doesn't have video capability.

    If you're wondering why I'm pursuing this, here's why: I used to say the same things you guys do. I found Coulter brittle and unpleasant when I saw her on TV, and said the same things--shrill, hateful, nasty, all that--and then a guy challenged me to actually read more than one or two of her columns. The first thing I noticed was something her critics studiously avoid mentioning: she's incredibly funny. Sure, you take a remark completekly out of context, and it sounds nasty--but when you read the whole column, it's caustic and outrageous--but makes you laugh out loud.

    That guy did me a favor, and I'm just passing it on. If you don't like her style, fine; no harm, no foul, not everybody likes Mel Brooks either. But I can't help suspecting that you guys have never really read more than a paragraph or two pulled out to show how "hateful" she is. I didn't like her, either, till I started to read her--then I was hooked.

    By the way--i don't know what was in those video clips, but I've seen some of those that were carefully edited to make her look bad, too. She's supposed to have said she hopes Edwards would get killed in a terrorist attack--but when you see the whole quote, you realize you've been had. It's not hard to do.

    All I'm saying is don't believe everything you read or hear or even see. Go to the source and judge for yourself. I could be wrong, but I don't think you have.
     
  16. BLS33

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    I have seen the "she hopes Edwards would get killed in a terrorist attack" incident and that was a total hack job, not something I would say in any context but the media did completely skew it. I have read numerous articles she has written and they did not give me the desire to read any more, and then I see her on hardball condoning the killing of innocent civilians (this was very recent mind you) and that was it for me. If you enjoy her more power to you, she however is not my cup of tea.

    On an unrelated note, are callers to the Sean Hannity radio show forced to call him a great American or whatever they do? I caught a bit of his show for the first time and every caller said that, I found it pretty funny. Hannity for a lack of a better term is a complete imbecile in my book.
     
  17. cnorman18

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    okay.

    I'd like to read a transcript of her remarks on Hardball. Chris Matthews is one of the most dishonest "reporters" on television.

    I don't care for Hannity either; he tends to put words in people's mouths and debate positions they don't hold. As for the "great American" business, I think it's just a tagline, like "megadittoes, Rush." I don't listen to either of them. I like Dennis Prager and Michael Medved. But then, I'm Jewish...

    (Michael Savage is, or was, Jewish too--but now he's a Nazi. Now HE'S hateful.)
     
  18. allmons

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    I love Ann!

    She is my hero. She has a national forum to say what many of us are thinking. Sure, she goes a little far at times, but I agree with about 98% of what she says.

    :D
     
  19. cnorman18

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    Okay, that's fair. I like a little acid with my chuckles, especially about liberals. "Senator Kennedy, we'll drive off that bridge when we come to it..."

    As far as commenting on the previous week--well, no offense, but "duh"--she's a columnist, not a reporter.

    How do you feel about George Will? I like him, except he's pretty soft on gun control.
     
  20. allmons

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    And John Edwards makes me sick

    Ann calls him the "Breck Girl" and it fits. He made millions chasing ambulances and "channeling dead babies" to pathetically ignorant jurors who "stuck it to" all thos evil doctors who spent their entire careers trying to save lives. Mr Edwards is one of the reasons that many OB/GYN doctors are QUITTING. They can no longer afford the malpractice rates. There is nothing Ann can say about Edwards that is HALF as nasty as he actually is.

    :mad: