Grammar, Spelling and other Useless Distractions

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Vikingdad, Mar 25, 2014.

  1. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    A thread was recently closed here that was not only interesting but I think important to our goal of understanding the Second Amendment War we are all soldiers in. The thread got sidetracked by a member who took it upon themselves to point out a spelling "error" that really had no measurable effect on the message that the person who made the "mistake" was trying to convey. In response to this post I posted these thoughts:
    The very next post was by one of the Mods, reiterating my last sentence and also warning that any further off-topic posts would cause the thread to be locked. Of course, the next few threads were all off-topic and BOOM! Down came the Hammer.

    Seriously people? Freaking get over yourselves! Not everybody is perfect (in fact, many times the person making the criticism has numerous errors of their own under their belt, sometimes in the very thread attacking another member!) and it does absolutely nothing to further the conversation for you to point out every little butt-hurt detail you might notice.

    Lets stop with the Grammar Police people! If you can't read a post then just ignore it and move on.
     
  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    personally, i don't expect perfection in any post as far as grammer or spelling, but i do like a post that is readable so that i can understand the message being conveyed.
     

  3. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    Even if you feel this overwhelming desire to correct someones grammar it should be done in private. Once you embarrass someone the conversation stops and they build up resentment for you.

    Peoples errors in grammar and spelling give them an identity. Those who refuse to use spellcheck cannot hide. You can spot their posts no matter how many usernames they might have.
     
  4. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    I agree on the first point, but not the second. I do not use Spellcheck at all, and 100% of what I write is from my keyboard without outside assistance. I do not expect that everybody wants to do that, or maybe they can't. It doesn't matter one way or the other really. And, as you point out, people cannot hide forever from their individual style of writing regardless of the number of usernames they might have. Personally I feel no need to "hide" from my posts. And I don't think anyone else should either.

    Stephen Fry has it nailed, and he says it very well.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY[/ame]
     
  5. molonlabexx

    molonlabexx New Member

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    Thanks for getting my thread closed ;)

    Honestly brother I would just let it go, it simply ain't worth it.
     
  6. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I obsess about spelling and grammar, on ONE person's posts here.

    I spell-check, I even google the big words I'm unsure of. I proof

    read them when I think they are proper.

    My concern is bad spelling or grammar are a distraction from

    the message.

    That one person's posts I obsess about is my own...

    ...would it were, that others would do the same thing.:(
     
  7. molonlabexx

    molonlabexx New Member

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    I can't tell if this is a poem or not... XD
     
  8. Vikingdad

    Vikingdad New Member

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    Look again. I got it re-opened. ;)

    You are welcome.




    (and I did not get it closed- it was the posts following mine that did it in.)
     
  9. molonlabexx

    molonlabexx New Member

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    You are my hero. Danke!
     
  10. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    If it is, I'm the lousiest accidental poet in history.

    Nothing rhymes, the meter is off, and the composition is

    shyte...
     
  11. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    spelling police.jpg

    Somebody call about a split infinitive? :p
     
  12. molonlabexx

    molonlabexx New Member

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    Oh C that is too good... HaHa
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    to further expand upon my first post, being 100% proper isn't needed, but being able to put words into text so that a clear message is delivered is important. there are some, that reading their posts, leaves you with being very confused as to what they are trying to say or the meaning behind the post.

    personally, i think a person should put at least some measure of effort into their posts, if they want to be taken seriously and credible. and for myself, anyone who resorts to text talk language to make a post, is someone i just overlook and ignore. simply not worth my time to make an effort to decypher their posts.
     
  14. Anna_Purna

    Anna_Purna New Member

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    I type with one hand while I am on here, most the times I don't use ' or capitals etc because its too much while im writing down something for homework with my other hand. if someone doesnt like it then please put me on ignore
     
  15. G30USMC

    G30USMC Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have opened the thread, please keep it beneficial to the forum
     
  16. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't rag on folks here for misspells. I had to do it as an educator. By the same token even I'm not perfect, and I will go back and re-Edit my own posts when I spot a mistake afterwards. I agree with Vikingdad on how he feels, but see the other side as well. "Folks Should" police their own posts if they CAN. But if they don't it's no ones job to do it fore them. A very Well known member did it to me the first week I was here as a member( after lurking as a guest for about 3 months). I let it go then because it was NBD,..but some have a habit of doing that. I don't( at least not spelling, maybe facts) do that, but I take critique honestly as it comes, and try to give it the same way if I really have to. That's just me, and(I) have only really lost it here one or two times, which I think some loose it like that 1 or 2 times a week.
    (Note-pre-corrections in this post-7 before I hit the reply button....)


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  17. G30USMC

    G30USMC Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I also have done this myself, I blame it on my fat fingers typing on my smartphone..... It isn't as smart as it says :D
     
  18. Vincine

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    How to Write Good

    In the spirit of keeping it beneficial to the forum, I offer these sets of rules for writing:

    Avoid Alliteration. Always.
    Prepositions are not words to end sentences with.
    Avoid cliches like the plague. (Theyre old hat.)
    Employ the vernacular.
    Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc.
    Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are unnecessary.
    It is wrong to ever split an infinitive.
    Contractions arent necessary.
    Foreign words and phrases are not apropos.
    One should never generalize.
    Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said, I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
    Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
    Dont be redundant; dont use more words than necessary; its highly superfluous.
    Profanity sucks.
    Be more or less specific.
    Understatement is always best.
    Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement.
    One word sentences? Eliminate.
    Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.
    The passive voice is to be avoided.
    Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.
    Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
    Who needs rhetorical questions?

    Parenthetical words however must be enclosed in commas.
    It behooves you to avoid archaic expressions.
    Avoid archaeic spellings too.
    Don't repeat yourself, or say again what you have said before.
    Don't use commas, that, are not, necessary.
    Do not use hyperbole; not one in a million can do it effectively.
    Never use a big word when a diminutive alternative would suffice.
    Subject and verb always has to agree.
    Placing a comma between subject and predicate, is not correct.
    Use youre spell chekker to avoid mispeling and to catch typograhpical errers.
    Don't repeat yourself, or say again what you have said before.
    Use the apostrophe in it's proper place and omit it when its not needed.
    Don't never use no double negatives.
    Poofread carefully to see if you any words out.
    Hopefully, you will use words correctly, irregardless of how others use them.
    Eschew obfuscation.
    No sentence fragments.
    Don't indulge in sesquipedalian lexicological constructions.
    A writer must not shift your point of view.
    Don't overuse exclamation marks!!
    Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long sentences, as of 10 or more words, to their antecedents.
    Writing carefully, dangling participles must be avoided.
    If any word is improper at the end of a sentence, a linking verb is.
    Avoid trendy locutions that sound flaky.
    Everyone should be careful to use a singular pronoun with singular nouns in their writing.
    Always pick on the correct idiom.
    The adverb always follows the verb.
    Take the bull by the hand and avoid mixing metaphors.
    If you reread your work, you can find on rereading a great deal of repetition can be by rereading and editing.
    And always be sure to finish what

    (The first set of rules was written by Frank L. Visco and originally published in the June 1986 issue of Writers' digest. The second set of rules is derived from William Safire's Rules for Writers.)

    :)
     
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2014
  19. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Okay, so spelling, grammar, word usage are not the strong point of some people.

    We are no longer in school and if the point does get across, let it go or PM the individual.

    We have enough outsiders casting stones at us that we do not need to do it internally.

    Heck, even the 2a has grammatical errors, but we understand it and support it.
     
  20. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Leave it to you, Vini. Another great post. :D