Govenor Signs and Vetos Final Anti-Gun Bills

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  1. mrm14

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    California: Governor Signs and Vetoes Final Anti-Gun Bills

    Posted on September 29, 2012


    Yesterday afternoon, Governor Jerry Brown signed and vetoed the final anti-gun bills still awaiting his action. Governor Brown and anti-gun members of the California Legislature continue to attack the millions of law-abiding gun owners and sportsmen in the Golden State with restrictive and misguided laws.

    Below is a list of the anti-gun/anti-hunting bills Governor Brown signed into law from the 2012 legislative session. These new laws will take effect on January 1, 2013.



    Senate Bill 1221 – Hunting Ban

    SB 1221, introduced by state Senator Ted Lieu (D-28), would ban hunting bears and bobcats with dogs. Hunting with dogs is a tradition that continues across the country. Many dog breeds with select characteristics for hunting can be traced back for thousands of years. Seventeen states allow bear hunting with dogs. The use of hounds for hunting has never been shown to have an adverse impact on wildlife numbers. Biologists and other wildlife experts determine regulations and bag limits, just as they do with other hunting seasons.



    Senate Bill 1315 – Local Regulation of Firearms

    SB 1315, introduced by anti-gun extremist state Senator Kevin de León (D-22), is just a stepping stone to completely destroying California’s firearms preemption law. Such firearms preemption laws are in place to standardize firearm laws across the state. SB 1315 would authorize Los Angeles County to enact and enforce an ordinance that is stricter than state law regarding the manufacture, sale, possession or use of any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm and that expels a projectile that is no more than 16 millimeters in diameter.



    Assembly Bill 1527 – Open Carry Ban (of unloaded long guns)

    AB 1527, introduced by Assemblyman Anthony Portantino (D-44), would expand on last year’s ban on open carrying of an unloaded handgun to also include unloaded rifles and shotguns.



    Governor Brown vetoed the following bills:



    Senate Bill 1366 – Lost and Stolen Reporting of Firearms

    SB 1366, introduced by state Senator Mark DeSaulnier (D-7), would require every person to report the theft or loss of a firearm he or she owns or possesses to a local law enforcement agency in the jurisdiction in which the theft or loss occurred within 48 hours of the time he or she knew or reasonably should have known that the firearm had been stolen or lost. Law-abiding gun owners should not be made a victim twice and punished for theft of their firearm(s).



    Assembly Bill 2460 – Ban of Law Enforcement Transfer of Firearms

    AB 2460, introduced by Assemblyman Roger Dickinson (D-9), would ban law enforcement officers from transferring handguns that are not on California’s approved “roster” to anyone but law enforcement officers. Currently, California law allows for the transfer of firearms that are not on the approved "roster" to be transferred to law-abiding civilians. These transfers must go through a licensed firearms dealer and are only transferred when the new civilian owner has passed a criminal background check.



    Assembly Bill 2333 – Liability for Negligent Storage of BB Devices

    AB 2333, introduced by Assemblyman Jose Solorio (D-69), would expand California’s negligent storage law to any person who knowingly or reasonably should have known that a minor is likely to gain access to a BB device without the permission of the minor’s parents or legal guardian and the minor carries the BB device in a public place. The definition of “public place” includes a “front yard, driveway, doorway or entrance to a building or dwelling.” If a minor possesses a “BB device” that is visible from your own private property you and your child would be in violation. Violators would be subject to a civil penalty and/or community service.
     
  2. jjfuller1

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    WOW. chalk it up to CA to ban a dang bb gun.
     

  3. hiwall

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    why do people even live there?
     
  4. Blueguns

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    It's tough over here, but we're fightin!
     
  5. Blueguns

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    OC ban on unloaded long guns boils my blood.
     
  6. towboater

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    How ya supposed to take it anywhere??
     
  7. towboater

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    Just what Ca. needs. More gun laws. :confused:
     
  8. Blueguns

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    You have to keep it WELL without of reach in vehicles. You cannot openly posses it until you are at the area in which you are shooting, or within (don't quote me on this but I'm pretty sure) 150 yards away from that point.

    Sometimes you have to say something aloud to fully appreciate the stupidity. At least that's what happened to me when I wrote this.
     
  9. widowmaker

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    This kind of crap is why the people in the northern 1/4 of the state want to break away and become Jefferson.
     
  10. Blueguns

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    I can't tell you how many times I have said to cut California below Cloverdale, and have Nor. Cal. become it's own state.
     
  11. Displaced-Michigander

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    So glad my wife wants to leave CA as soon as my current orders have run their course. Shoot, VA looks better all the time compared to all this.
     
  12. Vikingdad

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    Banning OC (both long and hand guns) may have the unintended consequence of loosening up the concealed carry permitting process. That seems to be the trend right now (though not, unfortunately, in my county).
     
  13. Blueguns

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    I don't carry (although I am planning on it).

    I just don't want the cops called on me for standing outside my garage admiring my shotgun and the birds I got that day.

    Or when I have to carry the gun to the street when I'm done shooting, because that's where the car is.

    I think banning open carry of long guns is AWFUL! No matter if it loosens CC.
     
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  14. Vikingdad

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    As I understand it there are specific exceptions for hunters and bringing your guns to and from your car (or standing outside your garage with your weekend bags), etc., the law is specific to long guns being carried in a "public place" such as a coffee shop.

    Don't get me wrong, I am just as disappointed in the ban as you are, but the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of those open carry activists who pushed the issue into the faces of known anti-gunners. Open carry did not become an issue until people started open carrying in a flagrantly provocative manner. When I was in high school in the early 80's I remember a couple of times where people would open carry and it was no big deal. One of my buddies would open carry an AR15 as a part of his Halloween costume every year. Try that nowadays and you would end up in jail. Things have changed for the worse here in the past 25-30 years. Only a fool would not know that.
     
  15. Blueguns

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    Yeah, those OC guys got out of hand. I've heard there was once a time when kids would OC a .22 into the store to buy ammo.

    I remember talking about those OC guys with you. Not many people I knew understood fully how they shot themselves in the foot. (No pun intended).
     
  16. Vikingdad

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    I don't specifically recall your stance on the OC thing, but I took a lot of flak for my stance, and I do believe I am right about it. When I was a kid we used to be able to hike on the road to friend's houses with our loaded .22's. Since I was raised in a no-guns household I didn't have one of my own, but nearly all of my friends had them, and also had one for me to shoot as well, and we would hike all over the place with our guns and nobody thought anything of it (this was over 30 years ago).
     
  17. Blueguns

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    I agreed with you in that the OC protesters went about protesting in the wrong way for California. We agreed that they were out of line carrying there ARs in to coffee shops, and restaurants in big cities here.

    Growing up, I was walking distance from a place I could shoot, but by then it was illegal to carry my .22 loaded.
     
  18. bear1

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    My guess for the money and the weather..
     
  19. USMarineProtector

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    My family can't take it anymore so we're getting the heck out of here (California) come this summer. I'm law enforcement and this state is out of control with ALL of the ridiculous laws they come up with. The fruits and nuts that are running this state, WILL destroy it with their high taxes and anti-business laws.