Got Silencers???

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by parinoid54, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. parinoid54

    parinoid54 New Member

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    Up in the "Legal and Activision" section, I just posted that WA state house of reps just passed (88 to 4) a bill to allow the USE of silencers in our state (this is so remarkable as our state house is overwelmingly DEMONcrates). Does anyone currently own and use a can? Legal to own, but not use in my state, some of my friends with cans travel down to Oregon to use their's on a range. What about you "evil assassins?" Was it worth the cost of your tube and tax stamp?
     
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  2. eborden1122

    eborden1122 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Wow that's great. I have never used one. What is it like? Does it help recoil? What sort of taxes and stamps are you referring to? Sorry for all the questions but I am really curious. I don't even know the law in Mississippi.
     

  3. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    First, they are suppressors. Second, very few mfrs make 1911's with a threaded barrel. I don't see the need for one, but I don't care if cans are used or not. I would assume that if made legal by your state, then they must see a benefit to them. A registry perhaps? Tax dollars?
     
  4. JonM

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    i also dont see any real use for them other than a cool toy. if you want one and dont mind the price go for it. but they sound nothing like they do in the movies.

    used to have an acquantance in texas that had some home made supressors and some manufactured legal ones couldnt tell the diff in sound from one to the other. he eventually got nailed selling the not so legal ones. him and his mom went to the pokey.

    if you want one as a toy go for it. just make sure your doing it the legal way.
     
  5. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Do you have a link to that vote? EDIT: Just saw that you have posted it in the Legal section. I have not heard anything about this but am most interested considering the current law is about the most assinine ever put in effect.

    Okay to buy - illegal to actually use. WTF over?! :confused:
     
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  6. parinoid54

    parinoid54 New Member

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    I heard about it from the NRA-ILA. Some time ago, I called our state's attorney general's office about what does their interpertation of "use" mean. Is carrying one "use"; is attaching it to your pistol "use"; is powder residue in it "use"? Their answer was that it has never been ruled on in a court case, therefore they could not answer!
     
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  7. parinoid54

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    Since 1934, the Fed's have put a $200 tax on them through the BATF(E). You buy one through a Class 3 FFL dealer, who will help you submit the forms to Big Brother. After a few months, they will send you a registration stamp for that ONE item. For each silencer/suppressor/can you have to do this again and again. The registration is permanent, but does not follow the can if you wish to sell it (always through a Class 3 FFL dealer). Most who use them say that it does reduce recoil, probably thru the added weight on the barrel. I find them a kick to use. Check this out: In jolly ol England, with all their severe gun laws, a suppressor is virtually REQUIRED, even for shotguns, so as to not disturb their neighbors. Oddly, owning a handgun there is almost impossible, but hunting with a rifle or shotgun without a suppressor is a no - no! Go figure!?!
     
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  8. parinoid54

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    Yes, they are correctly, but not commonly, called suppressors. But this is like trying to explain that "point blank range" is NOT an up close shot. Thanks to Hollywood the name silencer is here to stay in most everyone's mind so I am not going to try to retrain the general public. Even S&W offers a threaded barrel for one of their M&P pistols, and Nighthawk Custom, and HK, and others. Plus almost all barrel manufacturers offer their tubes threaded if asked for.

    As a practical reason to have one is to defend your home and family. In the dark of night you hear someone in your home who has no reason to be there. If you have to shoot, your first shot will cause you to go deaf, and if you miss, you will no longer be able to hear where this SOB is or what he may now be doing. Having a "silencer" will protect your hearing and allow you to continue to listen to what the pile of human garbage is up to. I have just admitted that I have a legal "silencer," attached to my nightstand gun, for just this possibility. Afterwards of shooting a waste of human flesh, at least I will be able to hear and understand the questions the police will be asking me.
     
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  10. Davyboy

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    Suppressors are very rarely used in the UK when hunting with a shotgun. Poachers use them a lot for illegal hunting. I do use one one when hunting bunnies with a .22. A fully moderated shotgun such as this can be whisper quiet
     

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    Portland is in Oregon damnit!
     
  12. parinoid54

    parinoid54 New Member

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    I couldn't figure out what you were talking about for quite a while---and then, my brain fart cleared (after taking my prescription dose of Ex-Lax). At the time I was registering on this site, I was visiting a friend in Portland, OREGON. Yes, I live in Washington State, so with the mixture of kool-aid, and the excitement of going out to shoot several guns with suppressors the following day, I screwed up. OH - LORDY! SAVE US!

    Yes, Port-a-potty:rolleyes: is in Organ:D, and being from a small, country town in Washington, you can have it. :D

    So????
     
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  13. Dillinger

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    C'mon 1016! Yes on HR 1016!! :D

    JD
     
  14. parinoid54

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    My reference on this was from a gun magazine article (Gun World?). I left it in my office so I can not reference it until Monday, but I will. In the article, the writer explains how suppressor use in England is widespread with both shotguns and rifles, and commonly assumed to be polite to respect the privacy of the neighbors.
     
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  15. parinoid54

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    Oh YES! Once again, this firearm legislation should be supported by EVERYONE, at least by sending an email to the Washington State Legislature. Why? Because if you live in a state that is as convoluted as is mine, yours might also be impacted by a win in Washington State! If we can score a win in a state that is second only to Kalifornia in firearm stupidity, you can use it in your state to say, "See! The DEMONcrates in that uber-liberal state did it. Why can't our Socialists?" :confused:
     
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  16. parinoid54

    parinoid54 New Member

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    Can any one believe this? The Washington State Senate has just approved the USE of suppressors/silencers in our state (having been previously approved by our House of Reps)!! You must keep in mind that our state, like the oppressed state of Kalifornication, is overwhelmingly DEMONcrates.:mad: I can't get my mind around it. :eek:

    Perhaps soon I can go out and shoot without ear muffs. Perhaps soon, I can go hunting, hear the game and take it without becoming even more deaf.

    However, we still have an evil, tyrant govener (DEMONcrat) that, if she is suffering from one of those mental problems she is known for :rolleyes: may veto it :(.

    Perhaps it is truely the end of time.
     
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  17. Dillinger

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    Pass the Senate? Out-frickin-standing!! :D

    This bill is the brain child of a Democrat who is also a lifetime member of the NRA, and with it flying through the House, then Committee, and then the Senate, we MIGHT just have enough suction to get this one passed and into law.

    C'mon HR 1016!! One more hurdle.....