Good news?

Discussion in 'Illinois Gun Forum' started by mybigguns, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. mybigguns

    mybigguns New Member

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    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact...ub8sgMyxPWQynrLKQsup6prgKzf5UXf3Q3su908F-q1M=



    ISRA Notice:
    Decision in Shepard / Moore v Madigan

    We are disinclined to engage in another round of historical analysis to determine whether eighteenth-century America understood the Second Amendment to include a right to bear guns outside the home. The Supreme Court has decided that the amendment confers
    a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as important outside the home as inside.

    The theoretical and empirical evidence (which overall is inconclusive) is consistent with concluding that a right to carry firearms in public may promote self-defense. Illinois
    had to provide us with more than merely a rational basis for believing that its uniquely sweeping ban is justified by an increase in public safety. It has failed to meet this burden.

    The Supreme Court’s interpretation of the Second Amendment therefore compels us to reverse the decisions in the two cases before us and remand Nos. 12-1269, 12-1788 21
    them to their respective district courts for the entry of declarations of unconstitutionality and
    permanent injunctions. Nevertheless we order our mandate stayed for 180 days to allow the Illinois legislature to craft a new gun law that will impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public safety and the Second Amendment as interpreted in
    this opinion, on the carrying of guns in public.

    REVERSED AND REMANDED, WITH DIRECTIONS;

    The legislature has 180 days to change the law.
     
  2. Stillersfan

    Stillersfan New Member

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    niiiicceee!!!
     

  3. TheoShooter

    TheoShooter New Member

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    Let's see if it actually happens. I sure hope so. At least I would say this is good news!
     
  4. eltoro

    eltoro New Member

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    I am still registered as firearms trained and qualified in Illinois from ages ago when I was a security guard ":eek:" LOL but point being they should accept that. and or my Texas training in firearms which is current.

    But I think the Chicago politicians are going to start a whole new round of battles now since all they focus on is harassing the down state people instead of fixing the serious issues in their city and area.
     
  5. niteglock

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    I have a feeling the legislators are going to make CC the hardest process to go through and extremely expensive so that it will deter most people from getting their license. That's what chicago is all about. If they lose, then they find another way to screw us. Or limit the round capacity to 5 rounds or something. Now I have a feeling also, that Illinois is going to go hard for the assault weapon ban now because they are pissed off. That will eliminate alot of firearms in Illinois. Either way. I'm happy as hell that they shut down the ban on a federal level but a little concerned on how this is going to play out. Fingers crossed.
     
  6. Shade

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    http://blogs.suntimes.com/politics/..._state_ban_on_carrying_concealed_weapons.html

    Now we need to make sure our legislature understands that
    we need a shall issue
    and not a may issue law.

    Call you State Senators and State Representatives and pester them until
    they get it, many of our state level dirt ba.... um politicians have tough
    elections and are very "in tune" with what voters want they also realize
    that we are the last state with out a CCW process.

    I think by this time next year we will be able to carry. Thank God!!!
     
  7. aandabooks

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    I see this going down the road of some sort of compromise on the part of the anti-ccw crowd. The law that was introduced last year was pretty strict. I can see the reps who have been in support of CCW digging in their heels and forcing compromise knowing that if the 180 days expire, we will have CCW with our foid cards being the liscence.
     
  8. Shade

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    I hope you are right, I would love to see our Foids be our CCW!
     
  9. gvw3

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    I think it's pretty clear. They lost. They are not going to push this as hard as most think.
     
  10. aandabooks

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    Rahm has already come out about how the court is wrong and he wants to help shape the new law. Last time I checked he is the mayor of Chicago and his authority stops at the city limits. Quinn doesn't like it at all and has renewed his statement about an AWB here in Illinois.

    When was the last time a legally purchased AR was used in a crime in Illinois? They make it sound like it is a daily occurance.
     
  11. Fathead00

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    Quinn is an IDIOT!!! He said he wants the AWB because he doesn't want people walking around with "military style" weapons, REALLY??? If you pass a bill to carry I don't think the first firearm of choice will be a RIFLE!!! YOU F**KING IDIOT!!!! I'm glad I live in Indiana, but I have to drive here for work though.:(:(. If Quinn has a chance he's going to make it sooooo freaking hard to get a permit.
     
  12. PSYCHOFREAK3

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    The one part that I am not sure of is if Lisa Madigan (Quinn left it in her hands on whether to appeal to the supreme court or not) appeals will the 180 days still hold up.
     
  13. niteglock

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    I have a feeling if you live within a certain distance from a school. They will not let you get one. That's half of chicago right there.
     
  14. bigtrucker

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    I wonder what the reciprocity will be with new bill? I live in Illinois and have ccw from Utah. I know many residents that have Utah & or Florida ccw, will these be recognised?
     
  15. Shade

    Shade New Member

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    Damn good question. I suggest you call the ISRA and see what they think
    it with at least be an honest answer and to the best of their crystal ball.

    www.isra.org
     
  16. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Dream on. It's not going to be that easy, I'm sure. :(

    I'm as stubborn as any mule. They can make it as hard as they want. It's not going to stop me from jumping through any hoops they set up. I will get my CCP. I'm not sure I'm up to carrying at all times, but I will get my CCP as soon as I can.
     
  17. Shade

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    If your gonna dream, dream big. I don't think Springfield could fill a
    pot hole in 180 days... LOL

    Remind me why we still live in the POS State?!?!?!?
     
  18. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I can't speak for you but for me it's because my Dad is here, he's elderly and he needs me.
     
  19. 25-5

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    I think MadAssHatIgan will come up with something like New York where you have to have a specific need to carry. Not self protection!
     
  20. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    I wonder if single female would qualify.