Good bye New York..hello Alabama (Remington moving)

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Dearhunter, May 10, 2014.

  1. Dearhunter

    Dearhunter Supporting Member Supporter

    Subject: Good Bye New York....Hello Alabama

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) Doesn't Want Them Remington, one of the world’s largest gun manufacturers, will on Monday join Gov. Robert
    Bentley (R) to announce they are bringing over 2,000 jobs to Alabama. Most of the jobs will be relocated from their Ilion, NY plant, and the initial investment in Alabama will be $87 million. Founded in 1816 in upstate
    New York, the company is one of the nations oldest continuously operating manufacturers. Remington is the only U.S. manufacturer of both firearms and ammunition products and one of the largest domestic producers of shotguns and rifles. Remington first began considering new locations after the New York legislature passed the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (SAFE) Act in response to the tragic shootings in Newtown, Conn. It
    broadened the definition of so-called assault weapons to include a wide range of guns, including the Bushmaster, w hich was being manufactured at Remingtons New York plant. A month ago Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) said extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay, have no place in the state of New York. Gov. Bentley responded in Alabama we strongly support and uphold our great U.S. Constitution on which our nation and our states were founded. The Constitution serves to protect individual freedoms. Among them are those guaranteed in the Second Amendment, which protects the right of the people to keep and bear Arms. We will protect the freedoms of individuals and welcome any one or any company to Alabama to discover as so many have, that we are a pro-business state filled with good, hardworking people. If Gov. Cuomo doesn't want hard working pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment people in his state, we will gladly take them here in Alabama.

    Elections are a battle, Liberty is the war. We may lose a battle here and
    there but we must never lose the war. Keep fighting the good fight.

  2. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

    Yup, saw that coming like a train! 20 minutes from my home, 2000 Millwrights, Engineers, Machinists and Toolmakers jobs flushed right down the toilet. The safe Act wasnt the only thing that caused this, just the final straw that broke their backs. Between the Unions, Taxes and extreme costs for utilities they were losing way too much money for way too many years. They can now walk out proudly instead of waging a war against all 3 that they couldnt possibly win. I wouldnt support Remington while they stayed in my state under the terms of the Safe Act but their this is a game changer for me, I now like them again.

    That prolly sound stupid but I have a hard time with any business that doesnt stand with the people and their rights especially when they are making tools that Ive been restricted from owning. They will finish their Chuck Screwmore Incentive Contracts out and start the move down south.

    The good news is Andy is Seeding the Nanotech industry in Utica, out with the old, in with the robots!

  3. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

    Plus he is going to give the robotic manufacturers the same tax breaks as plants that hired thousand of tax paying workers. I wonder how the robots are going to generate payroll taxes, sales tax, build small businesses to provide services for the robots. Andy's math is just as poor as his logic and ethics.
  4. TekGreg

    TekGreg Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter


    I have a new game, New Yorkers - "The Search for Cuomo's Brain!" Someone call the radio stations, we need to involve as many New Yorkers as possible.
  5. WebleyFosbery38

    WebleyFosbery38 New Member

    Your sadly wrong. Those businesses that have kept NY afloat for decades and even centuries get no tax breaks in the Andy Fixes everything plan unless they start a new business in a new location. A great howdoyou do to the thousands of entrepreneurs that pay saleries, bennies and retirements for many tens of millions of New Yorkers and made NY great to begin with.

    Gov supported, spearheaded R&D and adoption is so damn illegitimate anyways. Thats how we moved almost overnight from nearly mercury free households to what could be considered hazardous waste sites. The government decided the Mini Pigtail Fluorescent lamp was a cure for something that wasnt broken. Add the flicker, high freq scream, RF and IR Burst they put out working normally and they suck 100%. It stunted the ongoing development of LED Lighting and has been the single increase in toxic waste form 90% of all homes, commercial and others to the landfills and aquifers in 50 years!

    Back to Remington. I wish them the best luck where they are going. Bama is going to have big shoes to fill. Many of those 2000 employees have DNA that goes back to the cornerstone laying of the very first Remington Manufacturing Building built in Ilion. Be sure that at least 1/3rd of those 2000 will be exported from Ilion to get the plant running and set the tone for the other 2/3rds. That should be interesting, they dont call it a NY Minute for nothing. New Yorkers are a hardy and hard working bunch of lug heads. We tend to do more before coffee break than some do all day. We speak funny too, not like in the movies "New Yawker" but different all the same.

    We will miss them in so many ways you cant imagine, I took it for granted I could just jump over 2 hills and drop off a weapon or go on an awesome tour. I hope everyone welcomes them, they will bring with them the knowledge of Everything Remington like their Daddy's (and Moms) did before them.
  6. kryptar19

    kryptar19 New Member

    Remington's moving huh? Maybe the quality of their firearms will go up with the move. Fingers crossed, but their guns might be worth buying in the next couple of years.
  7. Easy_CZ

    Easy_CZ Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter


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  8. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

    They are welcome here.:) I moved to the 'Free State of Winston' ( the only neutral place in the civil war) accidently but it is good fit for an out spoken old cowboy who has been a hired gun most of his life!!!;)
  9. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

    Remington is not "moving". Yeah, about 80 folks in Ilion, NY will lose their jobs when two product lines move to AL . Many more will lose their jobs in GA, Montana, UT, NC and MN. Remington will also lay off one shift of their Marlin plant in Mayfield, KY.

    Last edited: May 17, 2014
  10. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

    Even if all it is is 2 or 3 product lines, it is still a step in the right direction IMHO. Why keep production of a banned product in a state that has banned it?

    As to consolidation several of it's smaller plants into one larger plant or compound, this makes perfect business sense because it will cut operating costs across the board, along with shipping costs. By a larger company moving on, a door may be opened for a smaller company to expand it's self, and take the displaced workers in. There is both good and bad to that situation, but for every door that closes another one opens. it worked that way a couple of decades ago for Troy-Built.
  11. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

    really? We have to start with the product bashing already? usually it takes a couple of page to get to this point. :rolleyes:

    Are you really both so insecure over what you bought that you must bash what others like? Look up post with issues for the firearms you own and guess what. you will find just as many. I will stick with my Remingtons. 10 problem free years with my 870, 5 with the daughter's 870, and close to 50 with my grandfather's 11-48 between him and me speaks volumes.

    ECZ, If you are refering to the AMF Harleys of the 70s and eraly 80, I have to agree. Dad and i ran a cycle repair shop for 15 years, and most of our major repairs were done to AMF Harleys. They made one hell of a bowling ball, but their bikes sucked. ;)