Gold, Guns, & Get-away-plan

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by PanBaccha, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Gerald Celente, publisher of Trends Journal, often states the simple:
    "Gold, guns, and a get-away plan is what is needed for what is coming"
    But just where does one begin to buy gold, as shady businesses and rip-off
    establishments are aplenty out there. Where can one buy gold today? :confused:
     
  2. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Gold is at an all time high. Bad time to buy it. Silver is a better option and is less likely to be confiscated by the government ad gold has been in the past.
     

  3. bkt

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    Go online and look at the current spot price. At the moment, it's $1587.40. You should expect to pay between $20 and $60 over spot (per ounce). Call around local coin stores and ask what they're charging. If it's in that ballpark, go ahead and buy. Buy bullion, not numismatic coins.
     
  4. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Silver is at a really, really good price right now and it arguably makes more sense to buy silver than gold as an individual anyway.

    But it is always a good time to trade Federal Reserve Notes for money.
     
  5. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    As an afterthought I thought it entertaining to hear Gerald Celente on a different but same (huh?) issue: GOLD ;)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/Watch?v=MU-8fujBaDA&feature=youtube[/ame]
     
  6. clr8ter

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    Gold & silver is easy to buy. I have 7-8 dealers near me, some with better prices &/or more stock. Just know what you are looking at. If you're buying gold for SHTF, I wouldn't worry about the Govt. Even in the 30's, it's not like they went knocking on anyone's door.....just keep it out of the safe deposit box. I suspect that if they made it illegal to own gold again, there'd be a black market that would spring up pretty quick......

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  7. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    I'm more interested in the get away plan. Just where does one think they will go?
     
  8. Mark58103

    Mark58103 New Member

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    Come to North Dakota. Everyone else and his brother is moving in!
     
  9. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Y do u think silver is a good buy now!?
     
  10. bkt

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    Throughout most of recorded history, silver has been worth about 1/16 that of gold. That is, 16 ounces of silver more or less had the same value as 1 ounce of gold. This ratio changed during the silver boom in this country in the 19th century. However, silver is used in industry FAR more than gold in ways where it cannot be recovered. Some estimate as much as 95% of all silver ever mined has been lost to industrial uses. There is actually far less physical silver above-ground than there is gold today. Today, the value ratio is 1:57. Silver is undervalued big-time.

    Not long ago, silver peaked at $50/ounce and stayed in the $38-$45/oz range for a long time. That it is now only $27/oz or so means it's a good time to buy. But as I said before, no matter what the cost, it is always a good time to exchange Federal Reserve Notes for money. :)
     
  11. bkt

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    Nowhere, unless staying home becomes more dangerous than venturing out to a BOL.

    I have multiple BOLs, two of which are way out in the middle of nowhere. No place will guarantee safety, but if predictions that being within 10 miles of an urban center would be extremely dangerous are true, then these places should offer more safety than staying put at home.
     
  12. Donn

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    Much as I hate getting into this one again, I'm curious. What are you going to haul all this stuff with? Gold and/or silver, ammo, weapons, food & water, clothing, medical supplies and let's not forget the family. That's a lot of weight. I doubt your F-150 or even 250 is up to it. Not attacking anyone here, just curious about logistics.
     
  13. mrfox556

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    My thought is if you're not already "off grid" and in your BOL, with all the gear, the whole family, water and all the good stuff, you're gonna have an enormous amount of trouble making all that happen once the proverbial S has hit the proverbial fan. Don't wait, act while you can.
     
  14. Donn

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    Precisely MrFox. Everybody and their brother will hit the road and go as far as a tank of gas will take them, About 100-300 miles depending on the vehicle condition, load and the weather. Ever see pictures of highways out of town when an evac's been ordered? You ain't gettin nowhere fast. Besides what I outlined in my first post, you're gonna need gasoline. You'll need to get around at your BOL and get back when it's over. How about fuel oil and/or propane for cooking and heat? Generator? More weight, needs fuel. You'll use wood. OK, taking a chain saw? More fuel and 2 stroke oil. When was the last time you cut down a tree and split wood by hand with an ax? Last but not least, how long do you plan on being gone? Week, month, year? The longer you're out there, the bigger the inventory gets. I wish you all the luck in the world, you'll need it.
     
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  15. bkt

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    Not much point in having a bug-out location if you don't keep it stocked, right? I would not try to haul everything from home to a BOL because what I need is already there.
     
  16. HockaLouis

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    Silver?

    I think it has an "Obama" premium attached to it and I can tell ya I stopped buying any when it went from dollars per ounce to tens of dollars per ounce -- the US Dollar has not fallen so far in purchasing power to warrant current precious metal values.

    A little goes a long way anytime as insurance at any price, gold or silver. I urge everyone to have some. But I've been done buying any for, well, years. If you have the cash to pay it off and could use a new one, buy a new car/truck but borrow as much as you possibly can for as long as you can and pay it off if with those cheap saved dollars as the inflation you'd have to fear sets in.
     
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  17. PanBaccha

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    As far as a get-away plan I have none. I will pretty much adopt into my mindset the old American Indian adage: "Today is a good day to die." And 'stand my ground.'