Glow-On, Again...

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by Highpower, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Before I begin, let me just point out that I was not one of the group of FTF SM's who received a free sample of Glow-On for testing purposes. I bought and paid for my own "kit" through their web site. And when I spend hard earned money... well, you know. ;)
    That said -- here are some observations I made regarding Glow-On:

    My first test subjects are a matching pair of pistols, and a couple of common flashlights. The pistols are older surplus guns that have "dimpled" rear sight dots and a grooved front blade that are designed to contain a contrasting material from the factory. When I originally bought these guns and cleaned them the sights had some old, degraded yellowing paint in them. Cleaning solvent quickly loosened that material and washed it out of the recesses leaving me with bare sights. I had restored them by applying some Testors gloss white enamel (model paint).

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    I had asked Gato previously if I should remove the white enamel before applying the Glow-On to the sights, and he suggested to paint it on top of the existing enamel. So I decided to do a bit of experimenting. On one of the guns I applied the Glow-On over the white enamel. The other one I removed all the white paint, and filled the recesses fully with the Glow-On alone.

    A couple of things I noticed were that if you have "dimples" to fill, the Glow-On will "sag" as it starts to dry leaving a concave surface. This is covered in the instructions, and you simply apply more layers after it dries to fill in the center area where it sags. By the way -- it starts drying very quickly and you don't get a whole lot of time to work it.

    On a personal note: After I had built up enough layers to completely fill in the dimples, the dots had a bit of a lumpy, uneven, sloppy appearance IMO. I waited for about an hour for the Glow-On material to firm up a bit, then took a sharp blade and carefully shaved off the "dome" which left a nice flat clean looking surface, level with the sight blade. Just looks better to me that way. I let it cure for approx 20 hours before applying a couple coats of clear nail polish to seal the surfaces.

    With that done I will say that there is a slight difference between the two (identical) guns now. The one with the white enamel undercoat on the sights appears to brighter - both in the light and in the dark, compared to the one with the Glow-On alone. Not a great deal brighter, but it is a noticeable difference.

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    My next test subject (Yugo 59/66 SKS) will get the same white enamel base coat before applying the Glow-On to the factory flip-up night sights on that rifle. They used a similar type of phosphorescent material on the issued night sights on some of those weapons. I believe that the Glow-On product is a perfect fit for that application in particular, for those folks wanting to restore their sights on those models.

    Moving on to the adhesive squares / strips / dots:

    At first I tried applying a couple of the smallest (1/16") dots to the flashlight. After cleaning the surface with alcohol and drying, adhesion of the teeny dots was..... lacking. After getting them to stick (barely) to the surface and applying a coat of nail polish to seal and secure them, they soon began sliding out of place. I know the adhesive is only to temporarily hold them in place, but it should hold them (I think) well enough to prevent them from moving after being coated with the nail polish.

    An attempt to re-position them with the tip of my X-acto knife only resulted in gluing them permanently to the knife tip because of the nail polish sticking, and making a gooey mess. Using the larger dot yielded better results - I assume due to the larger surface area and more adhesive. The squares and strips stick MUCH better than the dots do.

    So far I have noticed that I get several hours of "glow" from both forms of the Glow-On as long as it is charged with direct lighting. After sitting items in a room with indirect (ambient) lighting the glow is greatly reduced and time is short. Which makes me wonder....

    If I'm carrying one of my guns (concealed) for the most part and it's not getting direct lighting, would I rather be using the orange "Enhanced day sights" instead? And is that product even available in the liquid form? Additional tests may be in order.....

    That's all for now.
    Regards,
     
  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Yes, but............does it last 12 hours?
     

  3. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I've seen it last 10.
     
  4. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    Who the hell sleeps for 12 hours?? :confused:

    You only need approximately 6-10 hours of sleep a night and less then a minute or two to take care of any unwanted rift-raft, that may disturb your slumber. They will still be glowing.

    Between a 24 hour period, them sights will get some exposure to some kind of light to become recharged. ;)
     
  5. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    The first night I tried it, I let everything sit underneath my desk lamp (CFL bulb) for a hour and a half to become "charged" before going to sleep. I got up a couple of times during the night and everything was still glowing. I checked them after 9 hours and could still see the glow. I got busy after that (naturally) and forgot about them so I don't know the full length of time they made it.

    Last night I just left it all sit on an out of the way shelf that is shielded from a direct line of sight to the ceiling light fixture. The only light they got was whatever was reflected off of the walls and other objects in the room. Again this was about a 1 1/2 - 2 hour exposure to normal room lighting. When I went to bed I noticed that they only had a weak glow that I could see after I turned out the lights. I got up about 3 hours later and could barely see a faint glow from the flashlights, but nothing from the pistols.

    So obviously the more light you can soak into the material ahead of time, the brighter they are and the longer it will last. I planned on doing more testing after I get the old material cleaned off of my Yugo SKS, and apply a new white base coat then the Glow-On to it's night sights. I wish I had some of the "orange" in liquid form to compare the two, because the orange dots take a "charge" much more quickly but don't last very long. I'm thinking the orange "daytime" stuff may be better for a gun that's going to be concealed most of the time and out of any strong light path. The dots are a bit too thick for my tastes though....

    Just thinking out loud. :)
     
  6. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    Looks as though you did your flashlight up the same as I did. Works good especially when the power goes out on you. Also glows all night on the stand next to the bed.
     
  7. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    I hit my sights with the tac light for a few seconds right before bed and they glow all night.
     
  8. JJAMISON

    JJAMISON New Member

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    I like my tritium night sights on my duty rig but I have found they really don't matter anyway. point shooting has served me well.
     
  9. canebrake

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    I'm still a non-believer. Unless this stuff is an entirely new formulation of strontium aluminate........or it rocks a Geiger-Müller counter off scale, 12 hrs is a real stretch.

    I'm not doubting your tests, I'm just an old man with fixed experiences.
     
  10. doctherock

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    I haven't tested it to twelve hours myself cane. My testing was from the time I went to bed till I awake in the wee hours of the morning. It works for those times when I would need it.
     
  11. DrumJunkie

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    I had bought some of that stuff before the official FTF test group was formed. I have used it on a few different things and tried a few different methods. So far I have not got the 12 hour glow but it has lasted a few. The pressure sensitive (stick-ons) seem to last longer than the stuff in the bottle. The one thing I have noticed is they do seem to collect any ambient light in low light situations giving me just enough to see it even if they have not been charged for a good while. A weapon on my person but not totally concealed like around the house type stuff or sitting on my desk with no real light source (I'm a vampire) other than my LCD monitor at night. It seems to me that the more material you can get applied the better. So those sights that the dots are not flush and you can fill in the hole it works a little better. than applying to some flat surface. But I tried one painted up like the Heinie Straight Eight sights and it did OK.

    Bottom line is the stuff does work a little better than most the similar products I've seen out there lately. A replacement for "real" night sights? No, but it does give regular sights a little extra. For what you're paying for the stuff it's pretty hard to compain about it's performance. But it's not going to perform any miracles. The longest real glow I've got was around seven hours. It will hold some kind of glow a bit longer and if it has some source of indirect light it can keep a little glow almost indefinably it seems. I guess if you carried open it be real good.

    If you're going to paint up your sights it's worth looking into. It's going to work better than a bottle of testers model paint because it will glow. It's fantastic for my ever elusive remote control. That alone made it worth the purchase for me in the time it's saved me looking for a remote in my bedroom. The wife has enjoyed the slight lack in my foul language while hunting for that battery powered frustration device.:rolleyes:
     
  12. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Cane, do I need to do a pich black 12 hour test for you?
     
  13. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    Doc, that is exactly the reason I followed your lead. ;)

    The last few times we have had a power outage around here in the evening, I can't find squat because it gets really dark inside the house. I have several flashlights scattered about, but finding THEM in the pitch black has resulted in a few stubbed toes to say the least. :rolleyes:

    My hope was that I could leave one near the bed that "glowed" so I could find it easily in the dark of the wee hours. So the Glow-On has accomplished that, but not as well as I had hoped. Using only the ambient light in the room during the day charges the strips enough to where they DO have a faint glow during the night - and I CAN find the flashlight IF they got enough light during the day. But what about cloudy/rainy days?
    What if there was a fire and I need to find it in a smokey atmosphere?

    I don't really want to have to put the flashlight under a lamp every single day in order to get the bright glow that lasted for at least 9 hours during my first trial run. :eek:
     
  14. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    That seems to be my first impression as well.

    I think the "orange" dots work faster at collecting the light more so than the "green" ones, although they only glow for a few minutes. Which is why I would be interested in a liquid version of the orange material.

    That's why I wanted to do my "side-by-side" testing to compare the difference if any. In my case, I found the opposite to be true. The thinner coat of Glow-On on top of a reflective white base (pistol on the right) appears *to me* to be brighter and glow longer than the pistol on the left, which has no white base coat, but a thicker layer of the Glow-On instead.

    Agreed.
     
  15. gatopardo

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    For the love of God do!

    Easy way to do it:
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    Take a square of the self adhesive, stick it on the bottom of a coffee cup, expose for about tens seconds to the evening sun at about 5-6 PM cover it leave it in your room and forget about it.

    Wake up before sunrise, don't turn the lights on, check it out, Can you see the small square yes? no?

    Last time we checked after 13 hours, it glows

    Tip:
    Best way to charge, get it real close to the light source whatever it might be for about 5 seconds.
    How do i know is charged? Glow looks electric, good to go.


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    By the way gents, thanks for the attention,

    Thanks for a fair review, thanks for taking the time.

    Our basic concept is: It works, only if you use it!.
    You never know when you really need it until you do, best example, TV remote. It doesn't occupy space. It is super affordable. It's better than most similar products.

    Would I trust my life to it? Of course not, I wouldn't trust my life to a gun either.

    Is it better than something else? Like a friend of mine used to say: "The only bad gun, is the one you don't have when you need one"

    Above all good customer service:

    Payed for some and didn't like it, just let me know and I'll send your money back.
    Wanna try it? Tell me where to send some.
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    Thanks again, Gato

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    Last edited: Nov 4, 2010
  16. SecPro

    SecPro New Member

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    This stuff is pimp! I received a kit from gatopado and I dig it. It's good for what its intended purpose and for the price you can't go wrong. I highly recommend to those who are budget conscience and want to spiff up gun sights etc.
     
  17. K33viper

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    I purchased a bottle myself for my Beretta PX4 sights they are dimpled along with the sights on my Ruger LC9. The PX4 was so easy and simple, just 2-3 coats and then clear fingernail polish over the top of it.... they always glow a little, enough for me to get a sight picture.

    The LC9 though... those sights were a pain in the butt because of the curvature on the rear sight. But I was able to apply it any get it to work properly. I really like this stuff and would recommend it to anyone... I want to put it on more stuff in the house like the remotes a few flashlights, but I have guns on layaway right now. They will need their sights done.

    I have not tried the paper though, I have a feeling it may hold the glow a little better.

    I just wonder if $100 sights are really worth it anymore with this on the market. I've never had night sights so I can't really make a comparison.
     
  18. therewolf

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    Damn, you guys get to sleep 10 hours?:eek:

    Must be nice...

    I have had mostly positive experience painting my sights.

    On CC pistols, the Glow-on(and most other paints) tends to

    get worn off the front sight quickly.
     
  19. purehavoc

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    it will last alot longer than normal if you cover it with clear fingernail polish . I got a bottle and the decal back in december . the decal glows for about 3X of the paint . I recently opened the bottle up and its starting to get lumpy and dry out . So my conclusion is if it sits much longer than a yr its going to be dried up and head for the waste basket . great stuff for the price though .
     
  20. K33viper

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    I purchased mine less than a month ago and after doing my first gun i sealed it up tight, put it back in the zip lock bag and pulled it out today for another gun. It's already forming clumps and i stirred it with the wooden applicator. The clumps stayed...

    I store it in a shoe box with the previously mentioned steps in my environment controlled bedroom... I'm guessing my mid sized bottle is going to last 6 months before it's dried out... I picked the mid size because i did not think it would dry out... Kinda regretting getting the bigger bottle now.

    On another note after application and it's dried I cover with clear fingernail polish as well to avoid having to reapply at LEAST a year hopefully longer considering the dry out issue.