Glove compartment carry

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by jleeper719, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. jleeper719

    jleeper719 New Member

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    Glove compartment carry... is it legal in Clark county Nevada if you have a CCW? Also does anyone use the book titled Traveler's Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States written by J. Scott Kappas. Is it worth the money?
     
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  2. RONSERESURPLUS

    RONSERESURPLUS New Member

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    Golve comp carry?

    Hello all


    RON L here = SERESURPLUS



    I'm not in Clark County NV, But most places that I have been, Unless your a consealed carry holder, the anwser is NO! Glove box, is within easy reach, therefore is consealed and ready for use! Thats a NO NO in most places I've been!



    RON L
     

  3. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    Glove compartment carry seems legal according to the NSRPA. No legal statutes cited however.

    "Without a CCW permit, a firearm may be concealed in your home or vehicle as long as it is not on your person, concealed by your person, or in a personal item (such as a purse, backpack, briefcase) carried by you."

    "If an individual is not hunting, loaded firearms may be carried in a vehicle. During hunting, all firearms must be entirely unloaded before being placed in the vehicle (not after!). Handguns must not be concealed on a person in a vehicle unless that person holds a CCW permit issued in Nevada. Handguns must not be concealed on or by a person's body unless that person holds a CCW permit issued in Nevada. This is true while driving, also."

    You could always call Metro and ask....
     
  4. opaww

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    In kentucky any law abiding citizen can carry a loaded pistol in the glove box, even if you do not have a CCWP. But they are trying to change that.
     
  5. A5Mag12

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    You have to check individual states. In La. a mans car is considered an extension of your home and you can carry a gun any way you want. Hidden under the seat, in the console/glovebox or under a towel in the seat next to you.
     
  6. BLS33

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    I wish it was like that around here!
     
  7. Spartan

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    Glove box carry

    Glove box carry would be considered peaceful journey, you will have to check the Nevada codes to see if the State of Nevada allows for peaceful journey. Though most states consider your vehicle an extension of your property, and require law enforcement to obtain a warrant before searching your vehicle if there is no probable cause, carrying a weapon in your vehicle without a concealed carry permit can still result in a charge for carrying or concealing a weapon withing a proper permit. There is a reason why they issue permits, and in the State of Washington for instance, there is no peaceful journey, and if you get stopped and have a weapon in the vehicle and do not have a permit to carry, you will go to jail. And many states also have rules on how a gun must be carried in a vehicle, for instance some states require that the weapon be holstered or sheathed or in a lock box. Get the permit, it will make your life easier, and i dont recommend carrying if you dont have the permit, especially in your vehicle, you will be stopped, you will be searched, and you will be arrested.
     
  8. A5Mag12

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    Carry permits are a bad idea. Any one who can own a gun should have the right to carry it. All the permit does is make a list of law abiding citizens who just happen to own guns along with putting your finger prints on file with the FBI. Plus they are a pain to renew. Also many people who are on fixed incomes can have a hard time finding the money it takes to get one. I let mine lapse because it wasn't worth taking off work to get it.
     
  9. Spartan

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    fbi file

    actually the prints taken by local law enforcement be it city, or county or state police are only for their own use. they use them to make sure that the applicants for state carry permits have no criminal record that would bar them from carrying. in fact, from my understanding of the process, the state in which you live will only run your record for that individual state. you may have a record in another state, and it will not restrict you from recieving a carry permit in that state you have applied if you have no record, usually this only works in your current state of residence. those fingerprints are never submitted to the fbi. now the problem comes in when the FFL contact the NICS, now NICS will have a record of offenses from multiple states, so just because one state issued you a carry permit does not mean that the FBI will allow or proceed your gun purchase if you have a record. the fbi maintains no database, it is against the law, the records of purchases and proceeds are destroyed every 24 hours. no need for the paranoia or conspiracy theories, your fingerprints never get to the fbi, the fbi only receives felont conviction records. thats it.
     
  10. Spartan

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    carry permits

    and carry permits are a good idea, otherwise every yahoo on the street would have a gun in their pocket. the requirement of a carry permit reduces the amount of people who can legally carry, and yes that is done through the cost which is required to get that permit. it is a good way of maintaining that discipline of control and safety for the public.
     
  11. A5Mag12

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    Spartan you are wrong. At least as far as Tx. goes. And are you so naieve as to think yahoos don't carry guns simply because they don't have a permit? I guess carjackings are a thing of the past because surely no criminal would carry a gun because he got turned down for his permit. The Second Amendment gives you the right to protect your self, property and family with a gun. Not only those who happen to have a permit.

    Gun laws only make it easier on the criminals.
     
  12. FALPhil

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    It is not legal in New Jersey. In fact, NJ keeps going round and round in federal court over FOPA. Delaware ain't too friendly either. Ask me how I know.
     
  13. Spartan

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    What?!

    i never said that yahoos or criminals dont carry guns, where the hell did you get that from? WOW! probably not from the part where I said that the fact that obtaining a carry permit will keep the people who cannot get them from getting them. jesus! naive!? lol! yea, im naive, im a friggin ballerina. let me know after you've shot someone who drew down on you who wasnt supposed to be carrying, then we'll have a discussion about naive.
     
  14. Spartan

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    get a permit

    buy the way, only the guys who cant get a permit think that a permit is a bad idea, trust me, to comply with one simple rule isnt that big of a deal, especially when considering reciprocity. take for instance how much more difficult it is for residents of VT who dont get a carry permit, when they try to get non resident permits. So go ahead and carry without a permit in TX, i can carry in every state but about five, which I would never travel to anyways. I can even carry in canada, naive...lol.
     
  15. Spartan

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    as a second thought

    maybe i should add that those are permits that give me the right to carry, not the idea that just because i have a gun i should be allowed to carry it, criminal minds all think alike, stop breaking the law, be legal, get the damn permit, christ. there is always someone who has to find a reason to complain about something, you know the system isnt perfect, and i will be the first to admit the fact that having to wait a month or three for a stupid piece of paper isnt something that i look or looked forward to, but that is the process. the process is in place to protect us, and it may not be a perfect system, but it has its benefits. personally, the fact that law enforcement would take the extra measure to make sure that the peolple that they authorize to carry are legally able to carry, and the fact that they would take the time to screen a criminal record goes a long way to show the commitment of law enforcement to protecting the community. of course bad men will always get their hands on weapons, always, there is no doubt of that. permit or no permit. the police expect that law biding citizens adhere to protocol and apply for a permit. do you have any idea of the headache and the hassle that you will find yourself in if you are ever stopped and you are carrying and you dont have a permit. even if you have a permit and do not have it on your person, in most states, you will go to jail. showing the police your permit removes you from the scope of suspicion, you automatically receive treatment which is much different then that you would receive otherwise. in fact, i have been stopped while carrying, and have actually had the officer refrain from citing me for anything after discovering that I was carrying and that i had my permit. there is a principle of honesty and integrity which comes with the responsibility of carrying. that idea of standing against the government and the authority and fighting for the idea of what the constitution was originally intended is a little ridiculous when the times we live in today are much different then those when those rights were intially prescribed. we have to adapt and comply. rules are in place for a reason, if you dont like them, and want to do things your way, then go to Iraq, and see lawlessness for yourself. anarchy is not such a great thing, believe me, ive seen it.
     
  16. brolin_1911a1

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    Yeah, those people who live on fixed or low incomes, to whom the $100 permit fee coupled with the $100 - $250 for the required training class is a MAJOR expense don't really need to be carrying. So what if they're living in high crime neighborhoods or have to dread going outside because their age makes them an easy mark? Getting a permit is not that big a deal if you've got a well-paying job with plenty of disposable, discretionary income and live in a good neighborhood or have political connections. But for some people, people who really would benefit from being able to carry the means of protecting themselves, it is a big, insurmountable deal.
     
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  17. Spartan

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    better to be alive then be a statistic

    wow, so in your world, you would rather have untrained people who dont know how to use a gun or how to shoot accurately carrying, god forbid you have children or happen to go anywhere other then your living room, yea, lets do what you guys want and just let everybody carry, they would be great if everybody would actually want to carry, but they dont, so that leaves this large majority of people who have no money and either dont want to go through the training or cannot afford it, great, lets just let them have a gun and carry it around so that when they decide that its time to use the damned thing a stray round from their badly aimed shot might hit you in the head, jesus christ, you guys are great. this majority you speak of is the very same majority, who thinks that its is smart to bring more guns into a high crime area, placing them into the hands of people who dont know how to use them or store them or even shoot them, so now we have this wonderfully huge statistic that shows that most people are actually killed with their own gun. lets give everybody a gun, in a country were only about 60 percent of americans have ever actually fired a gun. this isnt israel, i dont even know why this is an argument, permits are permits. if its what you want to do, then you have to make the sacrifice, i dont make crap for a living, and had to sacrifice some of the things i wanted, and budget and save in order to get the permits i needed. i mean seriously, you must be joking about this.
     
  18. FALPhil

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    I haven't found that training makes a whole lot of difference when it comes to gun safety. In fact, most of the gun accidents I have witnessed were caused by people with more training than the average permit holder. I have seen cops that have shot themselves, soldiers that have shot their buddies, and in one case, an NRA instructor that shot through the exterior wall of his house while cleaning his gun.

    Plus, lots of "shall issue" states have no training requirement. In many jurisdictions, "a right delayed is a right denied".

    Personally, I think we need to have training for a lot of rights - take voting, for instance. There are a lot of people out there who really don't know how to vote. We should offer training for those people and issue permits to vote when they have completed the training. If we keep good records, we can pull the permits of those who keep electing bad pols.

    Training and permits are definitely needed for free exercise of religion. That's the only way I can think of to clamp down on radical Mohammedism.

    And my favorite - freedom of speech. Definitely need to require some training there. Especially in the news media. Those S.O.B.s lie to us day in and day out. They need to be trained and issued permits, and when they show that they are incapable of being honest, the government can pull their permits.

    Let's all write our congressmen and tell them to do it for the children!
     
  19. A5Mag12

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    Well I do make bunches of money for a living. I had the permit and will state that it is bull****. It is nothing more than another tax and a back door way to make a list of current gun owners. . If it is legal for someone to own a gun then it is legal. Whether I own or carry a gun is no ones business but mine. No person on earth has a right to know what I have inside my pocket, vest, truck or house. And my children started shooting at 5 years old as will my Grandkids.
     
  20. teknoid

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    Not every state requires fingerprints. Kentucky doesn't. As has been stated, prints are for state only.