I was at a friends house 1 day, I saw them shooting a pistol. So I went over there to see how he was doing with it, to my horror it was a hi point. I was like wow. (Junk). So he was claming that his hi point was way better than my glock. I was like yea friend that's why they sell them crappy old glocks for 600 bucks. What a idoit. Later on I got rid of my glock for a Xd. I've owned a hipoint and I got rid of it as fast as I coulda.