Glock ND Injures 6

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  1. Doc3402

    Doc3402 New Member

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  2. Doc3402

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    This story is a followup, and this is where the firearm was identified as a Glock 19.

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  3. Vincine

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    ". . . . He told police his Glock 19 9mm firearm went off as he was reaching for money and a valet ticket in his right pants pocket, where he also had his unholstered gun."

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  4. Doc3402

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    Absolutely. That's why I called it an ND. I don't believe in accidents in the first place, but this is so incredibly stupid it wouldn't qualify if I did.
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Thanks Doc.

    The police ruled it accidental, but I have to agree it was negligent.
     
  6. Doc3402

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    I know I'm going to catch flack on this one, but I don't care. It is my opinion that if you carry a Glock, or anything that depends on some sort of trigger mounted safety, you need to put it in a holster that covers the darn trigger. Anything else is stupid.

    As far as the accidental ruling from the police I sure as heck hope they mean unintentional. Based on their training and experience I hope they recognize stupid when they see it.
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

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    Yeah, because manual saafeties never get flicked off in a pocket when they aren't holstered. I'd say pocket carry in general should require a pocket holster. Sig 238, 938, a Colt Mustang, or other single actions, with a single manual safety could be just a prone to discharge in a pocket. if the saftey ends up disengaged, then that short trigger pull is real trouble.
     
  8. Doc3402

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    Very good point. The problem isn't the gun, it's the unprotected trigger... well, that and stupid people.
     
  9. JTJ

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    Of course they ruled it accidental, he was a corrections officer. If he had been an ordinary citizen it would have been negligent discharge. In any case the lawyers will have a field day in court.

    I did not know they had valet parking at donut shops.:D
     
  10. JonM

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    any gun needs a holster that covers the trigger guard. folkst aht carry guns on that ridiculous "clip" device are just one foreign object away from a ND.
     
  11. G30USMC

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    Couldn't agree more ...... Quality reliable holster is needed for any type of carry, otherwise it's an accident waiting to happen
     
  12. blackxpress

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    I say we come up with a new category for situations like this. SPD (Stupid Person Discharge). What kind of idiot carries a handgun unholstered in his pocket? You'd think a trained LEO would know better. Wow, just stupid as hell.
     
  13. G30USMC

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    There is no such thing as "accidental" that was "negligent"
     
  14. SSGN_Doc

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    Good point. Accidental would usually involve a mechanical failure. I have seen accidental bursts, when mechanical parts have failed (worn disconnector).
     
  15. Fathead00

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    How big are his pants that he can carry a G19 in them? Does anyone really believe he had his firearm in his pants pocket??


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  16. JimRau

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    There are two types of 'unintentional' discharges:
    Accidental - When the weapon is unintentionally discharged in a SAFE direction and there is little to no property damage and NO injury or death.
    Negligent - When the weapon is unintentionally discharged and resulting in serious property damage and/or ANY injury or death.
    Any hand gun which requires no other action than a 'short' trigger pull to fire MUST be carried in a holster with the trigger completely covered. All others SHOULD be carried the same way.
     
  17. armsmaster270

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    I couldn't have said it any better.
     
  18. Vincine

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    Am I the only one who keeps reading the title of this thread as 'Glock, North Dakota' Injures 6; as if it's a newspaper headline?
     
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  19. Jagermeister

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    I am reading it as the Glock (not the idiot) did the ND and injured 6. Funny.
     
  20. G30USMC

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    Read it again ;)