Glock discharge

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by ALfiremedic1, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. ALfiremedic1

    ALfiremedic1 New Member

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    Anyone had a firing pin safety malfunction? I did. A week ago I took my carry pistol off, gen 3 glock 30 sf, and I was about to clean it. Had just finished cleaning my xds, so had some oil on my left hand. Went to clear the round in the chamber. Grabbed the front of the slide with my left hand and began to clear the chamber. Hand slipped due to gun oil and slide returned to its original position. When it did, the gun discharged the round. The round went through my hand, the table and bounced off the floor. No I didn't have a finger near the trigger. My trigger finger was on the grip so it wasn't that. Took the gun to a local gun smith and he took it apart and found that the firing pin safety had malfunctioned. Called glock, but was told that because I had different trigger components installed, they were free of liability. They wouldn't even let me send it back to have them look at it.
     
  2. ALfiremedic1

    ALfiremedic1 New Member

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    Needless to say, the gun was sold so someone who knew what happened and he was cool with it. I will probably never own a glock again. No one else was harmed, but me and I'm out of work for a month. I was pissed to say the least.
     

  3. danolator

    danolator New Member

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    If you cleared your weapon before you started messing with gun oil, perhaps this wouldn't have happened (if it actually did).
     
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  4. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    I can see that you would be dissatisfied with the manufacturer, but this could happen with many different firearms, not just Glock.

    And all manufacturers will duck & run if aftermarket modifications/parts have been installed.

    I am glad that all you lost was a month's wages. Get well soon.
     
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  5. ALfiremedic1

    ALfiremedic1 New Member

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    For the record, it did happen

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    The is a pic while I was waiting for the ambulance. Lessons learned: clear all guns before I get my hands slippery. Grab the back of the slide, not the front.....and don't buy a glock.
     
  6. Jstrong

    Jstrong New Member

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    Damn... My carry is a glock30sf.
     
  7. danolator

    danolator New Member

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    Sorry that happened to you dude. I apologize, but there are so many Glock Haters on this Forum, I tend to be skeptical. Hope you heal well.
     
  8. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    I'm no Glock fan by any means but I can't see this as an issue with the weapon necessarily How was it determined that the firing pin safety had malfunctioned?
    Was there some type of wear or damage to it? how many rounds through it all together?

    I'm not doubting your word on any of this. I'm just trying to get as much info to get to the best informed opinion on the matter. This if is all 100% as stated is a pretty damning statement on the gun maker and the Glock people get enough bad press that is not always their doing. I've never heard of a Glock malfunctioning this way before. So I am very intrerested in the specifics if possible.
     
  9. sdiver35

    sdiver35 New Member

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    Oh effin OUCH! Dude get well soon and I'm glad that this didn't turn out much worse.
     
  10. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Don't blame the glock. You made many mistakes. Starting with voiding the warranty.
    I'm sorry you learned the hard way. I hope you heal quickly.
     
  11. therewolf

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    I don't know about others, but I don't hate glocks. I fear them.

    And these threads keep drawing me in, like a moth to a flame...
     
  12. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    The thread title should be changed. It should read negligent discharge.
    Rule and step number one on working on guns. Make sure they are empty and ammo is away from work area. It is not a firearm failure. It is failure to follow the most basic of firearm safety procedures.
    Whenever you modify a firearm you take the liability in your hands. Glock is free and clear. The warranty was voided.
    Did the safety features fail? Possibly. Is it because of the trigger modification alone? Unlikely.
    The trigger modification coupled with poor safe firearm handling procedures. More than likely.
    The trigger mod, poor handling practices and an improper upkeep. Most likely scenario.
    You couple these three things and your asking to have an accident regardless of what firearm you are dealing with.
    No offense to the OP.
     
  13. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Yanno, the guy was simply trying to unload his gun.

    YOU use the same product. What kind of glib

    justification are you going to employ, if, God forbid,

    something like this happens to you?

    Have any of you glock guys considered that maybe

    a lot of the others involved in these discharges actually

    did nothing out of order? This could, in less than fortunate

    circumstances, be one of you guys, one day, and,

    honestly, I'll feel fortunate, for your sake,

    if time proves me wrong.
     
  14. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Hopefully I won't make the same mistakes and learn the hard way myself.
    I myself have never blamed the knife that cut me. If you don't learn from your mistakes you are doomed to repeat them. The value of threads like this is to learn from the mistakes of others. If everyone blames the gun, nobody learns.
    I'm even willing to admit the safety may have failed.
     
  15. ALfiremedic1

    ALfiremedic1 New Member

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    It might read negligent discharge if I had pulled the trigger, but that's not the case. I was attempting to unload the firearm when this happened, so you can kick rocks on that one. Can I change a handling practice and grip a different part? Yes. But my hand was not over the muzzle until it slipped. Gun had great upkeep. I've been over this a hundred times in my head an I've tried to find a legitimate mistake besides having wet hands. Trigger mods? Maybe, maybe not.

    Ps. I posted this purely to get any idea if anyone has heard of or seen this before. Not to be ridiculed.
     
  16. Jstrong

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    Yea I don't really see how this could be all the OP's fault.

    Plenty of people put aftermarket triggers in their guns,so you smoothed up the trigger on your 1911,or put a match trigger in your AR,so are you now a irresponsible gun owner?

    And for those who are saying he should have made sure the gun was unloaded I'm pretty sure he was IN that very process.

    Only thing he did wrong to IMO was getting all greasy fingered before getting it unloaded,while the Accidental Discharge sounds to mostly be due to faulty glock/aftermarket parts.
     
  17. Devin556

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    Cuz god knows a glock (or any other firearm) couldn't malfunction. I think its kinda crappy when someone tries to share something that has happened with them for advice and to simply talk about it, just to have others come on to bash him and tell him he doesn't know how to safely handle his firearm.
     
  18. ALfiremedic1

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    From my talk with the gun smith, he determined that the firing pin safety spring had been pushed in on itself. Kind of like the end of a slinky if you push if hard enough. He put the stock spring back in and then The gun was sold.
     
  19. ALfiremedic1

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    I have 5 other firearms with serrations on the front of the slide, so it's a habit for me to safety check them using the font, because I have large hands. So following the same track, I have no problem admitting that I can switch grips from this point forward. but everything else was followed correctly. Pointed in a safe direction, no one around, no ammo except for the mag that I just had taken out of the gun, and my fingers were no where near the trigger. Yes I installed aftermarket springs, but who hasn't at one time or another. I'm just counting my blessings and enjoying my time off.
     
  20. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    There is a down side to doing mods on any firearm.

    Thankfully no one was killed. Especially since that was your carry weapon.