Glock Accidental-.45 cal into hand/with Pic's

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by Car54, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    Taken from another forum.

    ALWAYS... clear your Glock...

    The below is from a supervising U. S. Marshal.

    Well....I've always heard it's not a matter of "if, but "when".

    My number came up and I paid a hefty price.

    Last Friday I was preparing to go shooting the next AM with a buddy of mine.

    I had just put a new a-grip on my Glock, and was going to clean it after my wife and I finished our movie. Crash is an awsome movie BTW.

    I put the weapon back together and inserted the mag. I did not pipe a round because I knew I was going to strip it later. I went upstairs and put the weapon in the tool box in the garage.

    About and hour later (mid-night or so), I returned to the garage to finish cleaning and getting gear together for the morning. I picked up the Glock, dropped the mag and prepared to remove the slide. I done this literally thousands of times in the last fifteen years, but this times things were a little different. I grabbed the slide getting ready to push the take own pins and pulled the trigger......BANG!!!!!

    Apparently I DID pipe a round an hour prior. My shooting bud attributes it to force of habit, but why the hell didn't I check the chamber before pulling the trigger? Should that be force of habit too?

    Not only did I set off a .45 in my garage, but it passed right through my left hand......Yep....I *******ing shot myself point blank. I'm still having a hard time getting my head around what I did. I was SO angry at myself.

    I have always been uber safe with any firearm, but one lack of procedure changed everything. I'm really taking this hard, and all the "it could have been worse", "accidents happen", and "thank god you didn't lose your hand statements really don't help. I guess I'm getting over it, but it still seems very surreal to me.

    Here are details....I know you all are morbidly curious, and I don't mind telling...it's kinda like therapy for me. I DID NOT hear the shot (nor did my ears ring afterwards), and it felt sorta like catching a fastball right in the palm of your glove. I have a very clear image, and suspect I always will, of the hole in my hand...perfect .45 diameter not bleeding....yet. I took a few seconds, and then the arterial arch in my palm cut loose.

    Blood like you wouldn't believe. I think the fact that I was a Paramedic in a former life helped me out here. I walked into the laundry room and grabbed a towel to wrap it up, call up the stairs for my wife to come down. I remember thinking "if I go get her, I'll mess up the carpet on the stairs". No lie.

    She came down half asleep and kind of grumpy, and I told her "I just put a bullet in my hand". Said she was calling 911 and according to her I responded "That would be a good idea.." My wife is neo-natal RN, and can remain cool as a cucumber. This helped me out too I think.

    I went back into the garage, put my blasted hand on the floor kneeling on the towel and proceeded to open my ever present jump-bag with the other.

    I opened a US issue trauma dressing with my teeth, and proceeded to wrap my hand. Those dressing are the schiz nit by the way. My wife later told me it was very "Die-Haredesque"......I do remember cussing at myself the entire time...I have never been that angry before.....

    Four cops, the shift sup., a pumper truck and an ambulance later I was off to the ER. I didn't feel any pain until I got in the ambulance. The endorphins shut down and it hurt like nothing you can imagine. No tickets from the cops, but did have to ask which weapon I did it with. My garage looks like an arsenal pre-range trip.

    The bullet (a Black Talon no less..) shattered my ring finger meta-tarsal, and 'removed' two others. It destroyed the flexor tendon of my ring finger, almost separated my pinky tendon, and exited the right side of my wrist just above my watch band. There was a definite exit hole, but the blast force blew the side of my palm WIDE open about three inches in length. I didn't even see the exit wound until I removed my watch for the FD. Anyway, nine hours of surgery, three screws, a tendon graft from my forearm and about two-hundred sutures later I was put back together. My surgeon said if anyone has to get shot in the hand, this was how to do it. No nerve damage....whew. Physical therapy twice a week for God knows how
    long, and the surgeon expects at least 80% function back.

    I've included a pic of the round. Snap-On tool boxes are quite literally bullet proof. The jacket separated from the slug when it hit the box, that's why the slug is flat on one side. If the mods permit, I'll post pics of my hand too.....it's pretty burly, and will drive the point home.

    Thanks for listening. My wife thinks I'm crazy to post this, but it really does help me feel better. Remember....check the chamber twice, then check it again."
     

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  2. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    There are NO accidental discharges, ONLY NEGLIGENT DISCHARGES!
     

  3. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    Correct. My brain was passing gas (brain fart) when I was forming the title for the thread and accidental was the first thing that came to mind.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Wow. That dude is seriously lucky!!

    I can't blame the weapon, though I would like to :D, it could have happened to a lot of pistols, but having to pull the trigger to take it apart certainly doesn't help.

    Thanks for posting.

    JD
     
  5. Dzscubie

    Dzscubie New Member

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    Car, was this recent or is it old, I guess what I’m asking is do you know when this happened?
     
  6. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    I don't. It was just posted on another forum two days ago but there was no indication of the date that it had occurred. I would hazard a guess the way we jump on stuff like this that it was recent.

    I sent the original thread poster a PM to see if he knows. The guy involved is a US Marshal, I wonder if there is a fed site that would have a record of the incident.
     
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  7. Dzscubie

    Dzscubie New Member

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    I have a lot of Marshall friends and they are unaware of this that's why I'm asking. Thanks for following up.
     
  8. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    This was posted a few months ago on one of the Forums. I can't remember which one.

    Always visually AND manually inspect the chamber (Stick the pinkie into the empty chamber).
     
  9. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Cane, I think you and I had the same Drill Sergeant...
     
  10. mudslinger79

    mudslinger79 New Member

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    :eek: Holy crap on a breadstick Batman! Guys lucky.
     
  11. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    Quoted again as the gospel truth.

    Many-MANY people have been hurt or worse with "unloaded" weapons. Check it..Then check it again. And it does not hurt to check it yet again.

    I hope the guy comes out on the end OK. It's a horrible lesson to learn the hard way. The "shooter" is very lucky at any rate. It could have been much worse.
     
  12. skullcrusher

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    Didn't Robo have a guy who put one through his own hand and his friend's leg when he was taking down his Glock to clean it? The guy was a felon, no less.
     
  13. Highpower

    Highpower New Member

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    I know of a guy that is quite active on several other forums that used to use an x-ray of his left hand as his avatar. Needless to say he was a Glock owner that now has a very different bone structure in that hand after attempting to clean that gun. :(

    For some reason I have yet to see any of these reports associated with anything other than a Glock pistol. There are plenty of other striker fired handguns out there. What are the odds? :confused:
     
  14. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    I am sure the reason we hear of so many with the glock is that there are so many out there. That along with many guys new to shooting want a cool black tacticool pistol like in all the movies.

    Glock is it.

    I think having to pull the trigger to disassemble a pistol is stupid. It is amazing that the 1911 doesn't have to have the trigger pulled to take the slide off. I am not bagging glock and propping a 1911 I just have more experience with a 1911 over say a beretta or a sig or any of the other pistols out there.
     
  15. skullcrusher

    skullcrusher New Member

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    A good friend has a 24/7 Pro Long Slide. I was there when he broke it down for the first time. I said, "What? Pull the trigger? Quadruple check that thing!" He did. I was not comfy being there at that moment, but all went well.
     
  16. Ruzai

    Ruzai New Member

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    I own a Glock 30sf and even after racking the slide several times and checking twice both physically and visually, I never feel too safe pulling the trigger to disassemble it.
    For some reason I have that old mindset to never pull the trigger (not only for safety) without something to keep the firng pin from over-traveling when dry fired. I hear it used to be an issue in 20+ year old guns.
     
  17. skullcrusher

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    I am correcting myself. I remember now that it was another LEO that came across that recently. It was a newer member named Brad. Just wanted to give the right props. :)
     
  18. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    No Such Thing as a bad Gun, Only bad Shooters

    I see a lot of concern here about the need to pull the trigger on a Glock to take it down. I'm no fan of Glock but I love my XD and it has the same requirement. This thread contains way too many "poor guy" and "lucky guy" comments. Would anyone be saying "poor guy" or "luck guy" if his wife, rather than his tool box had caught that "NEGLIGENTLY DISCHARDED" round? I doubt it.:mad:
    Every ND I've ever seen or heard of came down to the same FAILURE. A failure to check the chamber. Those that resulted in injury or death contained a second FAILURE. A failure to control the muzzle of the weapon.
    And why in God's name is it necessary to cross the muzzle with your hand while pulling the trigger? I've taken down many Glock and never needed to do this.:confused:
    Let's not make the mistake of blaming individual failures on the design of inanimate objects. That ground is well covered by those who'd like see us all disarmed. And when we see a dumb #%&, please, don't be afraid to call a spaid a spaid.

    Tackleberry1
     
  19. gorknoids

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    Knew a guy that drew his Beretta prior to a night mission over Bosnia "back-in-the-day". Inserted a mag, released the slide, and then did what any Tomcat RIO would do: Pulled the damned bang switch. The round eventually found its way into a Resusci-Annie doll which was sleeping peacefully in her case, right next to my office aboard USS America.
    If you ever have the chance to read "Punk's War", he writes about it abstractly. Not hawking for the guy, he is what he is. Welcome to WardCarroll.com, Author, F-14 Tomcat Guy, Guitarist
     
  20. bstew324

    bstew324 New Member

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    wow. talk about a costly mistake