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Discussion in 'History' started by DFlynt, Jun 24, 2013.
Don't forget folks the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg begins on July 1st.
Been there, but that was about 30 years ago. Not sure anything has changed, maybe the cheap motel I stayed at. (LOL)
and a happy 150th to all that saved the Union. (now I am going to get it from all the southerners)
So much for States' Rights. They pretty much died when the Union won.
The Civil War of the 5 Aprils was an American tragedy. It was fought to protect Northern Investors, Western Farmers and Southern Plantations. The 60,000 killed wounded and MIA at Gettysburg was a terrible waste of humanity.
At the end of the war many wealthy plantation owners had removed their wealth and slaves to South America. Northern Investors made millions by stealing from the taxpayers. Small Western farmers became victims of the bankers and government supported railroads.
The grave yards North and South were filled with the young men of promise.
A great short read on Pickett's Charge:
Always liked reading about the "War of Northern Aggression".
The 3rd day at Gettysburg and the cavalry battle.
These battles always interested me since I had relatives with Gen Wade Hampton's South Carolina legion, one who was in the 1st S.C. Cavalry at Gettysburg, .
Last time I checked, South fired first.
The Civil War was a terrible war of attrition and the South simply couldn't keep up. If General Lee commanded the Northern forces, I think it could have ended in about a year.
The war was a technological revolution for warfare. The first machine guns, landmines, submarines, as well as trench warfare started in the Civil War. Unfortunately, medical technology was far behind the weapons.
Yup, and a lot of good people with them. At least stinkin' Lincoln died too.
Well then, read this.
We need to look at some facts. These are not politically correct and are not popular. The Civil War is not named correctly. A civil war is a war fought between two sides of one country to take control of that country. The Confederate States of America, known as the C.S.A., had seceded from the other states. In other words, they had become their own country. After they had become their own country, the United States of America, known as the U.S.A., decided to take them back by force. Lincoln said it was his duty to save the Union. He failed as the Confederacy had already left the Union and failed by destroying the very principles on which the Union was founded in order to take the Confederacy back by force. Because the Federal troops, or the U.S. military, decided to take the Confederacy back by force into the Union, it is technically correct, though not politically correct, to refer to the war as the War of Northern Aggression. However, those who won obviously would not like that title because it makes the U.S.A. look like the "bad-guys." They decided to keep with the politically correct "theme" of ending slavery and call it the American Civil War in order to keep their image up as the "good-guys." In effect, this portrayed the Confederacy as a bunch of slave-owners, therefore making them out to be the "bad-guys." This illusion worked well for the Federalists.
I've also heard it call the War Between the States. That one ok?
The fact that the aggressor won is proof that the good guys o not always win.
But ya know, after 150 years, it's time to get over it.
The carpetbaggers lingered for SOME time after that though and set some trends that continue today.
Sounds like some here want to secede all over again! In the first place the North was never going to allow the South to leave the Union. The North had the manpower and industry besides the Navy to blockade Southern ports. The simple fact of Southern legal slavery kept European powers from becoming active allies. The South never had a chance to win. Shelby Foote, Civil War historian ( a Southerner himself) has stated this and believes one of the biggest underlying causes was our inability to compromise at the time.
Imagine a divided nation making it beyond the turn of the 20th Century?
Like it or not, the North won. Who knows what kind of nation we would have become if reversed? We will never know......
Actually, there's a hilariously funny sendup mock documentary
about this exact scenario,
complete with commercials and everything, called
"CSA-The Confederate States of America"...
Really? That one must be a hoot!
The war was instigated by loud uncompromising voices on both sides. The South never had a chance. They had way more pride and indignation than industrial base. You have to acknowledge that slavering was an issue, but without it there were probably enough other sectional issues to have caused conflict. As for slavery, may the men who invented it burn in hell, because we are still living with the results of it today, in this country.