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Discussion in 'New York Gun Forum' started by fmj, Jan 3, 2013.
Why bother (I do but I dont know why). They dont care. They just keep pushing and folks have left the state in herds because of it. Coumo has Presidential hopes so after hes done F'n up NY, hes gonna offer his hand at doing the same for the rest of the USA!
Just sent this to Coumo, Schumer, Gillibrand and Valesky-
I'm a Vet, Small Business Owner, Employee and Taxpayer. I ask you to step back from any emotional Gun Control Responses you may have and understand that well over half of the USA supports an Unfettered 2nd Amendment.
The tragedies are that, tragic but the guns are not the common threads, it people with serious mental issues that are doing these things and they wont be stopped by any manipulation or restrictions of our legal rights.
1994 was the last time elected officials tried this and it cost them their jobs, the laws they created failed to protect anyone and a large percentage of the citizenry became disenfranchised.
Please consider your future support or lack thereof for gun controls as being the key to your future as a Representative of this state or nation.
SSG John Robinson, USARNG Inf Ret.
I'm glad people are running from NY. My sister recently bought a house in SC and my parents bought a villa. They're putting their homes up for sale in the spring and should be down there by the end of the year. I have kids and grand kids here, but am seriously considering the move there as well. Depends on how much they like it and what the morons in Albany do. I'm tired of traveling to Pa. and Vegas for real shooting enjoyment.
Cuomo's spaccone father Mario, the former governor, hatched a real winner and the idiot NYers got what they asked for both here and in DC. I called State Senator Kemp Hannon in Albany and emailed his office in Garden City. I also emailed Rep. Pete King. I don't think they're listening either. I sent them the video "Why No One Invades Switzerland", which shows our 2nd Amendment to be weak and nothing compared to how much their govt gives a damn for their people.
I was born and raised in New York City (Harlem) at a time when each neighborhood was a world unto itself. One didn't live long but did die with a lifetime of unbelievable experiences. That is long gone now. Nieghoborhoods, individualities, culture. Politically, it is one of the worse places to live where one cannot defend oneself without being charged, arrested, and sentenced. No matter the circumstances. NYC does not believe in self-preservation it appears. I well know this when once I had put a drug-dealer in the hospital with a Louisville Slugger. It didn't matter the weapons found on him when the ambulance came. It mattered that I did it with a baseball bat. And I was charged with attempted homicide. The leading detective said to me: "You should have killed the bastard. But even scum like him have rights. And he is pressing charges." I won the case. But even if there were two or three men against you and you severely hurt one of them. NYPD and the lil' mayor charges you. F**K NYC's politics, its mayor, governor, and their Keystone cops!
Life long New Yorker 50+, visited NYC 3 whole times in my entire life other than straight through the airport, never touching ground except to run out for a smoke! Cant even do that anymore! I dont fly much and wont go to NYC unless the Money is Huge and then just hit and run then back upstate, hardly breath the air while Im down there!!!
They let us survive just enough so we can grow their food, make them electricity, pump them our natural gas and give them a short jaunt for some outdoor fun and thats all folks. Were neutered otherwise, completely void of a voice or say in our futures or taxes. Kinda like Puerto Rico is to the US, the redheaded stepchild of downstate!
that is just... ahhhhhhhhhhhhh....if im reading that right its going to ban the USE and POSSESSION of our current AR's and magazines correct? and any other weapon the state police decides is bad......... i will be emailing the reps. but if this passes i see a move south very very soon!
My feelings regarding NYC and it's pusillanimous politicians cannot be expressed properly without every other word being four letters, but I must take exception to your calling the NYPD Keystone Cops. Like any other profession you'll find good and bad, but when push comes to shove and all hell breaks loose it's those people wearing blue you'd want helping you.
I'm long retired from there and visit that city usually kicking and screaming only when I have to, which is rarely. I was injured severely in the LOD like many others doing a job no one basically had the balls to do and believe me the pay sucked too. My disabling injuries are a reminder each day of what I previously went through. You do get used to pain, but I'm no masochist.
Fireman are loved by everyone, but cops are looked upon differently, though as a kid I was in awe of them when they passed by. It's funny how when someone who would normally put the NYPD down collapses on the street from a heart attack and one of those Keystone Cops comes by to pound on their chest to get their ticker going attitudes change, at least for the time being.
Someone I had worked with responded to an emergency call for my father-in-law and saved his life. So I have a personal reason for being grateful to the NYPD. By the way, that Keystone Cop had previously been in a well known 60's rock-n-roll group and had 2 hit recordings that anyone into doo-wop would recognize. Unfortunately he passed away at a very young age soon after retirement after spending a year in a coma. It's gotta be a nice feeling when a cop pulls someone off of you when your getting the crap beat out of you as well.
My son currently is there doing what I did, but he can see by their eyes how some look upon him and knows it's just another job. He may be considered a Keystone Cop, but I'm proud of him and worry about him, cause he's my son. Sorry for the rant, but I've let many remarks concerning police go by unanswered, but sometimes things must be said. Damn it, I really should stick to talking guns, cause politics is nausiating.
No doubt there are some good ones. But born and raised there I've seen some real rotten sobs with long karmas to answer to.
I'm sure you met some beauties just as I have, but Harlem was a place I hated to work in for many good reasons. I dealt with a lovely riot there many years ago after a police officer was murdered in a mosque and it wasn't a bed of roses either. I grew up in Brownsville Bklyn and got kicked in my rear end more than once by a cop, but maybe I deserved it. I still wasn't about to condemn them all and that was when I was a wise guy.
Some decades later after Harlem I, too, lived in East New York, near Brownsville, where the preception of NYPD continued. (I have family members & friends in NYPD now since retired). Evidently, it is not meant as a 'blanket indictment' against all cops. Just the very many that were criminals themselves.
Very many that were criminals? It was nice conversing with you.
not looking good so far. nothing offical yet though
True, remember the Knapp Commission in 1971? Almost an entire police precinct involved in heroin and the sale of said drug? Criminal behavior. I personally knew of several myself then. 'Twas nice conversing with you as well.
Nice try, but I was there and spent a little time with Serpico at the grand jury before he became famous. I wasn't impressed at all with him and it had nothing to do with what you saw in the movie. Your statement of the entire pct being involved with drug trafficking is BS. Try reading the old articles and maybe you'll get some real facts unless you like telling fairy tales. Also, I don't believe you knew anyone involved personally unless maybe one of them threw cuffs on you. For all I know you can be posting from Riker's Island, so maybe someone else will want to spend more time answering you. So long!
Considering the all around unfriendly nature of your state government to law abiding gun owners why don't yall move to a state with laws hat don't go directly against your constitutional rights?
Being one of the oldest states in the Union, NY's vast population and age all point to progressiveness being stronger here than younger states of much less population and younger cities. NY may be the laughing stock at this moment but try to understand that anything that passes in NY may be coming your way in the Free state your living in soon. NY does set the trends that other states fall prey to later in life, cause were "so advanced, have most of the really great higher education institutes and our diversity and culture are superior and unmatched in the nation" I know that sounds like a bunch of BS (it is) but thats exactly what they are saying in Albany right now and others will pick up that mantra trying to keep up with the NYC Joneses!
Even the mass exodus weve experienced over the last 20 years is fueling that change in free states cause thats where our deserters end up and they are pre-tainted by the nanny state complex.
Im staying right here for now and likely until I die because "Stand your Ground" is more than just a law of man; its My Law, My land, My State and My Country- no Jr. Mario come lately is going to chase me out of my own f'n home!
I am certain that NY's Current Republicrat Biparts will lead the way in gun control like they have in other FOOG Social Legislation. I also believe we will be one of the first states in the Union who's Citizens rise up and vanquish the Elitist Socialist Pigs that have put our Once and Future Great State on the brink of utter failure and send them packing like they did Rush and Tom Gollisano (and 5 million+ other taxpayers).
The statistics that make NY a Democrat Stronghold are weak at best, 55%+/- of NY votes Democrat, thats not a stronghold, thats a stranglehold that is hanging by a thread. 1994 changed minds when progressives exactly like Coumo and BHO obliterated the line that divides us by political parties and cost them all their jobs, it was an equal opportunity Bi-Part destroyer, if you voted yes on the AWB, you lost your job!
I have 2 close friends that are lifetime NY Dems originally from downstate that even with this scaled down law will eliminate thousands of dollars worth of their beloved Firesticks and Hi-Cap Accessories. They are so pissed right now that nothing short of a complete shutdown of any new anti 2A legislation in Albany will get them back "In the Dem Party". Its really tough to disenfranchise a Liberal, they generally lack any personal held values to begin with and vote the Platform every-time blindly!
When Civil rights took the forefront, most joined hands as Americans to protect the rights of all of our citizens. We did the same for Woman's Rights and Equal Rights for everyone over the history of this free nation. The word "Rights" is key to everything America and it United States Stand for and that which divides us today will ultimately unite us tomorrow!
Democrats and Republicans have sacrificed thousands of our children, parents and grandparents in wars started by Governments with Machine Guns and Tanks. They chose for us when our children would die, its time for us to make them understand that the only reason we do that is to protect our Constitution, Rights and Freedoms. If they grab this Old dog by the tail they get the whole dog, teeth and all, I suspect America is more like me than them!
The only things we have that make us anything like each other across the board is our unalienable "Freedoms, Rights and Responsibilities". Citizens rarely agree on much but most of us disagree with anyone taking our "Rights" away even if its FOOG! Just as I have faith in my God yet Ive never met him, I have faith that Human Nature and our will to survive will trump this Orwellian process sooner than later.
I ask of New Yorkers only what our Government has required of us to do when they send our soldiers into battle, stand your ground like it is a fight for your life cause it is!
I've wasted enough time with you, buddy.