German Drillings??

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by Ambrola, Jul 30, 2011.

  1. Ambrola

    Ambrola New Member

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    I bought these 2 Drillings and a Stevens 22/410 yesterday after long negociations. I know I got a deal, but I don't know anything about these Drillings. This one is a J P SAUER & SOHN and I think 16 gauge. I have no idea about the rifle barrell. Here is some pics of the markings if anyone can help.

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  2. Ambrola

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  3. c3shooter

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    Well, Sauer and Son is still around, so you could write to them, and get a letter on your drilling. 16 is the guage- but likely the SHORT 16- do not shoot modern 16 g shells in it, even if they chamber. Sauer and Son are the oldest German gunmaker still active- they started in Suhl, Thuringia in 1751, and moved to Eckenforde in 1951. The marks are German proof marks. Caliber of the rifle barrel- did not see the mark for that- will be in mm. May be 8.9, 9.3x72R, ect. If you can't find the caliber mark, a smith can do a chamber casting. Value? Beats the heck out of me. Value of ANY gun is based on EXACT make, model, and condition- yours would need a hands on appraisal from someone that KNOWS drillings. But because I am a nice guy, I'd send you $100 for it- maybe even split the shipping. :rolleyes:





    OK- put down the axe- just kidding. Price of good quality drillings is usually measured in thousands, depending on model, engraving etc etc yada yada.
     
  4. Ambrola

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    I should take your 100, but since I gave the guy 300 I wouldn't be doing too good. I think I will just take both of the to a SMITH and see whats what. They are beautiful guns with great carvings. I gave the guy 900 for 2 drillings and a Stevens 22 over 410. Can't go wrong there?? Here are the 2.

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  5. c3shooter

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    You need to go do 2 dozen Hail Marys and a dozen Pater Nosters. Then go eat 2 lemons.


    The lemons are to take the grin off yer face that you surely must have. Very nice guns, and a great deal. :p
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    A normal smith will be little help. There are guys at another forum that really know drillings. P.M. me for the site. (Here come the "there are other Sites"?
     
  7. canebrake

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    The crowns over the letters B, U, (proof approved); G (rifled barrel), S (smoothbore) and W (choked barrel) span the period from the first German proof law until 1939.
    The circle 16 is the shotgun gauge.
    The 58.50 is .430 inch and is the "Rifle Gauge" indicating the "gauge" diameter of the bore (not groove).
     
  8. Ambrola

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    Heres the markings on the other one???

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  9. canebrake

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    According to the German Proof Law: 118.35 gauge = bore diameter of 8.64 mm. Bore diameter = measured from land-to-land, no groove-to-groove.
     
  10. Ambrola

    Ambrola New Member

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    What does all that mean?
     
  11. deathkricket

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    I just wanted to say thats one sexy shotty.
     
  12. OldGunfighter

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    Sounds like it was built prior to 1940 :)

    I'm going to bump this thread to ask what (if anything ) you found out about your Sauer Drilling... I am not receiving the photos of the weapon, but you have a very cute dog. I am trying to date a similar Sauer 12-12-9.3x72R with a serial number in the 143xxx range. All of my other resources show hammerless models, but no model numbers are listed for these external hammered models with the side action release lever.
     
  13. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Ambrola,

    Love those pups also! Talk about great markings. Is that parent and pup?

    But have always appreciated the German Craftsmanship. They are just flat fantastic drilling's and I have always been an admirer of them even though I have never had one. As they stated they are not the normal chamber for the present US shotgun shells and most not standard calibers. But fantastic non the less! In addition black powder shells and cartridges in the older models. Thanks for sharing them with us!

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