"Gaps seen in Illinois gun owner screening process"

Discussion in 'Illinois Gun Forum' started by 94browninghunt, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member


    By Andrew Thomason
    Illinois Statehouse News

    SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — The ranks of Illinois gun owners likely include people with severe mental health problems, putting the public’s safety at risk, according to an Illinois Auditor General report.

    The cutting audit of the Illinois State Police’s Firearm Owner Identification (FOID) department concluded that, in 2010, only three of the 102 Illinois circuit court clerks reported when the courts deemed a person “mentally defective” or “intellectually disabled.”

    Such a determination results either in disqualifying a person from getting a FOID or revocation of their existing FOID card.

    “There are significant deficiencies in the reporting of individuals with potentially disqualifying mental health conditions to the Illinois State Police (or ISP) that seriously undermine the effectiveness of the FOID program,” the audit, released April 5, said.

    Monique Bond, an ISP spokesman, admitted that because of poor communication between circuit court clerks and the ISP, individuals deemed “mentally defective” or “intellectually disabled” have purchased guns and ammunition.

    Bond said in an e-mail that the FOID “department has already been in contact with the Illinois Administrative Office of the Courts for assistance in communicating with the courts and clerks and is partnering with the Attorney General’s Office in drafting a letter to the Clerks explaining the requirement.”

    Gina Noe, Marshall County Circuit clerk and president of the Illinois Association of Court Clerks, which lobbies on behalf of circuit court clerks, said the role of the clerks is clerical. She blamed judges and courts for the breakdown in communication.

    Noe said in a written statement: “The court must make the determination that an individual is mentally defective, and as such direct the clerk to notify the State Police of that status. Without that direction from the judge and court, the clerk would be in the position of making determinations regarding who is entitled to a FOID card. Such a situation would not only create potential liability for the clerk’s office, but usurp the authority of the court.”

    State Rep. Richard Morthland, R-Cordova, asked for the audit last April just before the Associated Press filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking the names of all FOID cardholders. The wire service’s request was denied by the ISP and eventually by a court injunction.

    Shortly after the 2011 ruling, the General Assembly passed a law exempting FOID card information from the state’s Freedom of Information Act.

    Morthland said he believed an audit of ISP’s FOID division to see who was being approved for gun ownership was better than opening gun owner records to the public.

    Morthland said the possibility of people with severe mental health problems owning a gun is “pretty scary.”

    “That’s kind of a big deal, if these county governments are not in compliance with state law,” Morthland said.

    Morthland said he wanted to review the audit further before offering any suggestions for fixing the situation.

    Jonathan Lowy, director of legal action at the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, a gun-control advocacy group, agreed with Morthland that the situation regarding FOIDs was cause for concern.

    “It’s crucial that Illinois, like other states, get all the relevant records into the system and make them accessible to make sure that dangerous people don’t get guns,” Lowy said. “A background check is only as good as the records you check.”

    Posted April 9, 2012

    what do you think of it? i just read the article...and to me just seems like another idiotic reason Illinois give to take away our rights!

    if you read the first comment on the article...he says Chicago rules the gun laws of the state, and i completely agree with that...such BS.
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2012
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

    So now they have to instruct the judges to do what the law says that judges are supposed to do.......

    Excuse me- I hafta go wrap my head with duct tape to keep it from exploding. I'll be back in a few minutes...

  3. 94browninghunt

    94browninghunt New Member

    I edited the post...they say "like other states" i think illinois would be MUCH better place to live in, if we actually were like other states...where CCW is permited.

    And i think if a "dangerous" person wants to do a "dangerous" thing...he will make himself go through any "danger" to do whatever "danger" he is set out to do, and actually giving people the allowance to conceal carry will make him do less danger if any danger at all.
  4. mybigguns

    mybigguns New Member

    These people didn't check the box saying they were mentally defective?
    I can't believe this! What is this world coming to?