Gap?

Discussion in 'Glock Forum' started by chlogeo, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. chlogeo

    chlogeo New Member

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    What is the purpose of this round that is unique to Glock?

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  2. msup752

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    The .45 ACP is not very efficient in the case design as related to the volume it is filled with powder and the bullet. Glock reinvented the wheel and made a shorter case to decrease grip size and make the round more efficient.
    It seems a novel idea but the guns have very low mag capacities and there is little aftermarket support for the round. The .45 ACP has a ton of options and ammo so the GAP round is all but gone.
    I would say this round is limited to Glock fans who reload and want a .45 but have smaller hands. Even then there are lots of options in ACP to fit those needs.
     

  3. Gatoragn

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    Borrowed from Wikpedia:

    The .45 G.A.P. (often called the .45 "GAP") pistol cartridge was designed by Ernest Durham, an engineer with CCI/Speer, at the request of firearms manufacturer Glock to provide a cartridge that would equal the power of the .45 ACP but was shorter to fit in a more compact handgun, and with a stronger case head to reduce the possibility of case neck blowouts. G.A.P. is an acronym for "Glock Automatic Pistol", and the .45 G.A.P. is the first commercially-introduced cartridge identified with Glock.



    Mainly it was to get you to want spend more of your money! :rolleyes:
     
  4. chlogeo

    chlogeo New Member

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    Thanks Mates!

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  5. MrWray

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    Other than what Gatoragn stated above,there is no purpose for the .45gap.

    If you want a real .45 semi auto, get something in .45acp
     
  6. chlogeo

    chlogeo New Member

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    OK, obviously this was a marketing mistake like The Edsel. Is Glock still making these pistols?

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  7. MrWray

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    I believe that they still are
     
  8. nyycanseco33

    nyycanseco33 New Member

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    Yes they are still making the GAP versions, as for the ones who slam it and consider it to be the "Edsel" I highly doubt you have ever actually shot the round... The GAP was designed to be an equivalent to the .45ACP but able to fit in a standard magazine and frame, thus being able to be used by a diverse law enforcement community with large and small hands which is a main reason for developing it (not so people can spend more money or any other ignorant statements posted here earlier in this thread)... The recoil is less but the performance is superb and after much testing the New York State Police and Pennsylvania State Police have chosen the G37 .45 GAP as their duty weapon... I have a G37 also and it is the best gun I have ever shot that combines comfort, reliability, performance, and power - yes I also own the G21 .45ACP and I do like it but it doesn't stand up to the GAP for those that were curious... I highly suggest that you all go out and shoot the GAP before you walk in bashing the round, at least know what you're talking about before you judge
     
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  9. Quentin

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    I agree with nyycanseco33, The 45GAP does serve a purpose and is an efficient cartridge. If the .40S&W hadn't taken off so fast in the LE community I bet the GAP would be much more popular today. Even so, it's nice to have a true .45 caliber in a short frame. I'm not converting to it because I'm happy with my 1911s but can see why many would love the GAP. I hope its sales continue to grow. If the ammo price was competitive to .45ACP the GAP would be a lot more popular.
     
  10. MrWray

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    You talk like you know me, are we buddies and i missed the memo?..wait! I figured it out...we went to different schools together!!!

    Thanks for trying, but i shot the .45gap not to long after they came out, another deputy had bought it and while we were on duty together we went out and shot a few mags through it.. I wasnt impressed with it, at all!...and neither was he,He quickly sold it. I dont know one single person that has one

    So if you gonna highly suggest something, suggest yourself not to assume people dont have any experience on what they are talking about
     
  11. Tackleberry1

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    I still think it was all about marketing. Many guns chamber the .45 ACP in grips managable to small handed shooters. My daughter mastered my 1911's and XD .45 by age 12 for God's sake.

    Perhaps the .45 GAP IS more efficient but it was still a poor idea given the ACP's reputation and following.

    If Glock really wanted a .45 auto with a smaller grip they could have easily dropped the silly polymer mags for SS mags and downsized the grip accordingly.

    My .02 cents

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  12. nyycanseco33

    nyycanseco33 New Member

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    I'm simply responding to a post on a forum, that's what people do here... don't get your panties in a bunch

    What exactly weren't you impressed with? The standard size frame which provides better handling of the weapon? The similar ballistics of the round? The higher FPS from the barrel than the .45ACP?

    Listen you're right I don't know you but you responded on a forum and I replied, if you don't like it then I suggest you go back to Facebook, I'm sure your FarmVille needs some attention
     
  13. MrWray

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    Nope, i dont farmville and my wife does all the facebooking.

    To me it just shot and felt like a sub par round, i have a G31 and when shooting it,you can just tell that its powerful and has potency. I just didnt feel that with the .45gap. I dont know what the ballistics is on the gap round,after i shot it i didnt take the time to check them out. I just love the .45acp and dont see the need for the gap, that just my opinion.
     
  14. nyycanseco33

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    That's fair, the ACP is a classic that everybody fell in love with immediately and it continues to this day... Don't get me wrong cause I like the ACP but the GAP felt crisp and comfortable when I shot it and I fell in love with it too... It's hard to determine the right or wrong with personal preference, we are all shaped differently and shoot differently and I think we may have started going a direction that was less than preferred, for that I am sorry. I respect your views on the ACP and your views against the GAP but I want to stress it is no less effective than the ACP round... Different strokes for different folks
     
  15. MrWray

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    I agree and my apologies as well. I guess that ive shot the .45acp and .357 so much that the .45gap just didnt do anything for me.
     
  16. nyycanseco33

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    I have never shot a .357 so it is possible that I will have a similar experience if/when I give that a try too... I have been interested in the G20 10mm lately though, never shot it but from reviews I have heard and read it sounds like it will jump ahead of my G37 GAP and be my favorite
     
  17. Quentin

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    Thank you MrWray and nyycanseco33 for being gentlemen. I wish it worked out like this more often on discussion forums!
     
  18. MrWray

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    Yessir, i was a little pissy today... I admit it
     
  19. nyycanseco33

    nyycanseco33 New Member

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    Yeah it happens to the best of us as I was a bit irritated too but it's all good... I find that a good remedy/ therapy is to go out and throw 100+ rounds down range and blow some steam... I propose we have an official Glock Range Remedy Day where everybody goes out on the same day and just shoots the bejesus out of some targets and just have some fun