Galvinized barrel

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by demonsees80, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. demonsees80

    demonsees80 New Member

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    I have what I was told, a late 50's wards western field 12 gauge shotgun. It's a single barrel break action and I'd like to refinish it. I've read the threads for the stock but don't know about the barrel. I believe it's just galvanized metal and I've tried googling the gun but come up with nothing. And advice for what to do? Polishing or blue coating? Thanks
     
  2. c3shooter

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    Well, if you post the model number, and all the funny little lines on the gun (called WORDS) we may be able to tell you who made it for Montgomery Wards.

    Galvanized is a term for coated in Zinc- usually done to limit rusting- and NOT done to guns. If the barrel is a dark black/blue, that is bluing. The frame may be a light silvery/tan with mottled rainbow colors- that is color case hardening.

    Post some pictures for us. Unless the bluing is long gone, it is amazing what you can do with light oil, a COPPER pot scrubber, followed by a wipedown with clean soft cloth.
     

  3. demonsees80

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    There is no trace of bluing left if there was any. I'll post some pics when I get home. I know when I replaced the firing pin, they said it was an h&r or h&r. I forget. But I'm and electrician and it looks just like a piece of galvanized conduit lol
     
  4. Tackleberry1

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    If the barrel looks like electrical conduit I would deffinetly NOT fire it.

    H&R is, I believe short for Harrison and Richardson who did build guns under contract for Wards.

    Post pics, you've got me currious. Never seen anyone replace a barrel with conduit but there is a first time for everything:)

    Tack
     
  5. demonsees80

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    I will post it in about 5 hours or so. I've put about 500 shells through it and never had an issue. Shoots true every time. The 2 h&r was a typo. Supposed to be h&r or h&k
     
  6. Tackleberry1

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    Doubt it's H&K. Don't think Heckler & Koch ever built a shorty for Wards.
     
  7. demonsees80

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    It's a model 10-SD247A
     

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    Sorry I'm new
     

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  9. orangello

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    That looks a lot like the "finish" of my old mossberg hunting barrel (from before they had screw-in chokes). It just looks, to me a non-gunsmith, like the blue is worn off. How does the part under the wood furniture look?

    I just keep that old barrel oiled well & in the safe; the mossy wears a shorter barrel now.
     
  10. demonsees80

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    It's the same under the wood too. There's no blue in the writing on the barrel either.
     
  11. Tackleberry1

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    Looks like a Harrison and Richardsons break open 12g

    Refinishing it professionally would cost 2 to 3 time the guns value.

    I'd keep it well oiled, as is, and shoot the snot out it.

    Tack
     
  12. c3shooter

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    Not galvanized- bare steel. Your shotgun is a Stevens Model 94B. In better days, it looked like this:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=281436676

    These were utility grade shotguns- their value is not as a collectible, but as a shooter, so any restoration work you do will not hurt any values.

    Start by removing the wood, and the barrel. You can clean up the reciever with light oil and a COPPER pot scrubber, followed by a rubdown with more light oil and a soft cloth.

    Bluing is gone from the barrel- may have been removed by someone else. You can clean it up, and try a home bluing, or get a smith to blue it for you.

    To polish up the barrel, use wet-r-dry sandpaper, and a little oil. Would probably start with 220 grit, going lengthwise, then 400 grit used like a shoe shine rag around the barrel. Remove all oil after polishing (take it outside, spray with brake cleaner, do not touch metal with bare hands after degreasing) Warm barrel with hair dryer, apply Oxpho Bluing with a clean cotton ball (not steel wool).

    OR there are spay paint type finishes like Cerakote made for guns that you bake on. Still need to clean metal up first. Howver, the product will cost you more than the gun is worth.
     
  13. c3shooter

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    By the way, folks, H&R stood for Harrington & Richardson. But this ain't one of them.
     
  14. demonsees80

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    Thank you very much for the help. Light oil? I have rem oil in a can. Does that work? And could I polish the barrel to a shine or would that just leave it to rust?
     
  15. tonydewar

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    i would take a good look at that pit that runs along the right side of the barrel
     
  16. c3shooter

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    Remoil is fine. Yes, you can polish the barrel with no finish. It will rust.

    Bluing is a controlled form of rusting- it is black iron oxide (instead of red iron oxide) Just for S&G's, you could also do some reading on rust bluing. Simple process, requires time, patience and elbow grease.

    Bluing, parkerizing, nickel plating, and the paint used on Brit wartime weapons were all to control rust.
     
  17. demonsees80

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    Thanks everyone for your help. I know it's not an expensive gun but value is in owner I guess. I'll post some pics in a couple days of how it turns out. Thanks again
     
  18. TheOldMan

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    Something else to remember... There's no such thing as "galvanized" gun barrels.
     
  19. demonsees80

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    Well I'm using the copper pot scrubber and c3 didn't mention how tedious it is lol. Takes some work to do but priceless information. Thank you very much
     
  20. orangello

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    Post up pics of your shotty when she's had her dye job.