Fully Automatic Laws?

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by ninjatoth, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    Can someone explain to me in layman's terms the laws of owning automatic firearms?My buddy was offered a Russian made Ak-47 for $400 that was picked up in Afghanistan(i'm guessing military mission),just wondering what one has to do to own this.
     
  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    wasn't it M C Hammer who said...

    "Don't touch this."

    Your buddy should check the BATF website. They have a FAQ section about NFA weapons that should have the answers.
     

  3. moneymaker17

    moneymaker17 New Member

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    it would be cool if it was just used as display, however getting caught with it is i believe 20 years min? and 250k
    sooooo
    if your "buddy" ;) is going to buy it i sure wouldnt bring it anywhere period. much less buy it.
    i wonder if those weapons over there even have serial numbers on them? anyone know?
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Full automatic bring backs are completely and totally illegal to my knowledge. I'll tell you the honest truth though, if it is one of the composite stock ones that are Russian made currently issued to the Iraqi troops, I would buy it and take my chances.

    I DO NOT CONDONE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES, AND THIS WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR SURE.

    What I would do with a given situation is not always the right thing.


    AGAIN, I DO NOT CONDONE THIS, I DO NOT ADVISE THAT YOU DO THIS, AND TAKE ABSOLUTELY NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU DECIDE TO DO IT AND GET CAUGHT.
     
  5. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Full auto falls under NFA rules. Civilian owned guns must be on the NFA registry and produced pre-1986. No weapons may be added to the registry, IE, guns from abroad.

    I would be extremely weary of the individual attempting to sell this to "your buddy". They are either that damn stupid, or have ulterior motives.

    This is so freakin illegal.
     
  6. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    We were searched so thoroughly coming back from Afghanistan and Iraq, there's only one way I can think of to bring back something illegal so that AK probably smells like crap.

    Not saying it can't be done, just would be very hard and I wouldn't be able to figure it out.

    Willfully armed has a point, they could have an ulterior motive.
     
  7. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    To give you a true answer (as others above me have)-

    What you have just described is a Federal Felony, good for (last time I looked) 10 yrs in a Federal Pen (no parole), a fine of $250,000, and loss of your right to ever own ANY firearm. We won't go into the loss of your girlish laughter, and Sluggo, your new roomate.

    As said- full auto firearms- in order to be transferrable to a private citizen, must have been registered withe the BATFE by May 1986. No additional weapons CAN be registered after that date. Which is why a LEGAL, TRANSFERRABLE AK47 is currently selling for arond $15,000. Yes, fifteen thousand. Not $400.

    What do you have to do to own it? Move to Afghanistan. And tell your buddy he needs a better class of friends.
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    C3 it just dawned on me. The Afghans are freer than we are. What the hell...
     
  9. anm2_man

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    When it comes to Machine guns, they certainly are.
     
  10. Shade

    Shade New Member

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    For $400 it is likely only semi-automatic; or likely as referenced above a set up.

    Obviously that has changed since 1991; when we docked in Hawaii, on the
    way back home customs didn't get past the quarter deck. One agent walked
    on board the OOD handed him our forms. He said thanks and left.

    Scary ehhh.
     
  11. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Yeah, this was well over 10 years, happened in 2003-4-5
     
  12. 70cuda383

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    It's hit or miss on customs.

    Thanks to the "idiots in the army" (sorry soldiers!) when you're going through customs at an "army station" they practically strip search you. No joke, when I was on my way out of Bagrahm, I had to remove EVERYTHING out of my pockets, remove my shoes, stand and do the full body scanner where they see you neked when you're not, then I was allowed to pass through while my bags were dumped upside down and they put eyes/hands on each and every item going back into the bag to make sure it was allowed.

    bye bye cubans, bye bye auto-opening knives! I was bummed! (ironic part is that I was issued an auto-opening Gerber knife with a 3.5-ish inch blade. I was allowed to keep that. but I bought a small auto opener with a 2" blade from the "haji-mart" and I had to toss that one in the trash...oh well, it was such a cheap copy and piece of junk, I really only wanted it because it WAS a fake. only spent $5 on it too)


    but, when we go abroad with our own aircraft, and we're doing our own thing, we land at the airport, customs guy sticks his head in the aircraft, asks "anybody got anything to declare? NOPE?! OK good, welcome home!" and they never even get on the aircraft.

    that being said...I wouldn't even dream of trying to bring back an illegal weapon like a fully auto AK!! I like my career, and more importantly, my freedom too much
     
  13. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I found a Webley .455 in Iraq. I wish I'd have just stuck it where the sun don't shine. I might would have been walking funny, but oh well...