FTF's Tomahawk Tests

Discussion in 'Other Weapons' started by Dillinger, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    This will be the FTF Tomahawk Test Thread.

    My partner in crime and I have acquired three tomahawks and we will be hacking and slashing more than a few items with them. :cool:

    Our goal is to give you guys and gals a real world view beyond the hype and fluff of glossy paper advertising and fancy claims by people you don't know. This will be real world testing on a variety of mediums that you can translate into real world use as you deem possible in the future. :rolleyes:

    The models being tested are as follows:

    American Tomahawk's Laguna Tactical (VTAC) model: Around $100 at various places around the 'net

    Cold Steel's Trench Hawk: $32 shipped to my door. I think Benning got his for about the same.

    SOG's Fusion Tactical: $30-$35 at various places around the 'net

    First up is the American Tomahawk VTAC.

    This model wins the carry case battle hands down. The thing is MOLLE adaptable and has two quick release clips to get it out and into use. The case is well made and it will withstand a ton of field use. No questions there.

    The 'hawk itself sports a very nice head on it. The handle is just under 4" in diameter, but it is pretty short coming in at a full length of 13.75" The head has a very nice, although not that thick, blade on one side measuring 2.50" inches wide and features a very nice, thick spike on the backside that is about an inch wide and almost .25" thick.
     

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  2. Dillinger

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    The Cold Steel Trench Hawk is a monster compared to the VTAC. It's about 19 inches long and features a much wider blade, spike and thicker steel throughout the head.

    The "cover" is a nightmare. It only goes on one way and it only comes off one way. There is no easy way to attach it to your kit and if you need it in a hurry, you probably should have started unpacking it two minutes ago. :eek: I hate the cover. It will protect you against accidentally sticking yourself with it, but that is about the extent of it's "value".
     

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  3. Dillinger

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    Here is a side by side of the two heads that will be doing battle on this end. Both are well made and while neither are razor sharp, they will both clearly do a lot of damage to anything in their collective way.

    Judge for yourself:
     

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  4. Dillinger

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    Here is the start of the test medium that I have set aside for testing on my end. Benning, I have no doubt, will be bringing an "A" game in his testing as well, along with his take on the SOG Fusion tomahawk which I have personally not seen yet.

    Let's see what do we have here......
     

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  5. Dillinger

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    Yes. Why yes those are construction blocks, concrete blocks, 2x4's, a piece of Sch 40 conduit and what I believe to be a 3/4" piece of plywood that will be hacked through....

    Wait a minute! :eek:

    Is that an old snow shovel?!?!?? :eek::cool:
     
  6. NitroxAZ

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    Looking forward to the testing boys. The CS Trench Hawk's cover does look to be well made even though it may be harder to take off.
     
  7. M14sRock

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    Come on......I'm already running low on popcorn.......

    Chop, chop with the, well....you know...
     
  8. Benning Boy

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    Hi guys.

    J.D. is correct. We'll be running a series of different tests, not unlike stuff we've done before, but with a few twists.

    This IS NOT purely destructive testing. These hawks will be pushed to their limits, but not purely to see if they fail. We're going to see if they handle a bunch of different tasks, and just how far they go.

    In researching these, I discovered alot of things before we made the first cut, and we'll be revealing those as we go.

    Let me submit my entries and initial impressions....
     
  9. Benning Boy

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    Covers.

    J.D. is on the same sheet with me here. We haven't discussed this, but this was the first thing I looked at.

    No carry option on the Cold Steel hawk. It is, essentially, an over-engineered edge protector. It's ingenious, but makes deployment impossibly slow. The snap where the nylon fastens actually scuffed the head of the hawk.
     

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  10. Benning Boy

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    Cold Steel has, as near as I can tell, always treated sheaths, scabbards, etcetera, as an afterthought. A shame, since most of their products are extremely good.

    Something Molle compatible would have made this S.W.A.T. worthy as standard issue for breaching.
     

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  11. Benning Boy

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    The SOG Fusion's cover does have a single belt loop, and snaps over the whole head. Ultimately, not comfortable for belt carry.
     

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  12. Benning Boy

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    I started with the idea that both hawks would endure the same tests.

    But then, with a little research, some things became clear.

    The SOG looks like the classic Nam hawk. A combat weapon. SOG, however, markets it as a breaching, obstacle clearing tool. I'm still researching, but I've found nothing to indicate it's use as a weapon.

    The Cold Steel hawk is marketed solely as a weapon.

    Indulge me as I give you my impressions, completely unscientific.

    The SOG feels like a fast, viscious weapon. An angry hornet.

    The CS is a trench hawk, but looks, hefts, and feels medieval. An angry dragon.
     

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  13. Benning Boy

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    The back spikes.

    The SOG appears to have lost it's way. An almost chisel point, but not quite.

    Almost sharpened, but not quite.

    It just feels unformed, and I'm not really sure what purpose it serves in the role that they describe.
     

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  14. Benning Boy

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    The CS, on the other hand, makes no bones about it's purpose.
     

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  15. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    The SOG's edge is sharper, we'll see how that translates into cutting power.
     

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  16. Benning Boy

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    The CS, however, has a curious addition, which serves as the inspiration of the first test. The test has become my standard opening shot at J.D., and generally my first test of each review.

    Hawk head to hawk head to Benny's head.....:eek:

    The CS features finger grooves at the head....
     

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  17. russ

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    BB, I'd think those finger grooves could prove useful in a hand-to-hand situation allowing the handle to be used as a baton, if the situation called for it. And I agree that the spike point on the SOG looks like they forgot to finish it.

    Very interested in your results. I'll stay tuned.
     
  18. freefall

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    You go, guys. Where did you order the Trench Hawk?
     
  19. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Good stuff gents, please continue.
     
  20. 2hot2handle

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    Who needs TV when you have this entertainment/education at your fingertips?