FTF's - Duds - Ect , what to do with them ?

Discussion in 'Range Report' started by MobileMarine, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    This topic may have been touched on before , if so I missed it .
    We all have them from time to time but in your honest opinions what is the best and safest way to dispose of malfunctioned rounds ?
    I would think a .22 rimfire would be the worst , and I dont especially like pulling bullets or dont have the tools to dis-assemble a live round .
    Im also sure just throwing them on the ground for the lawn mower to have fun with is not the safest route either , nothing bothers me more than a large or a hot round not firing like it should .
    A buddy of mine swears they wont go off or they will just pop and make a small fire if they are not chambered but I have to strongly disagree with him on that one .
    Most of my ftf's are .22 rf and after dropping the hammer a few more times I eject them into a pot of water and there they sit .
    The probabilty of it going off 30sec after ejection is low but nonetheless it still contains live powder in a enclosed cartridge .
     
  2. kenhesr

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    For many years I have been throwing them in my burning barrel. When I burn the trash they cook off, you get a little "pop" and a puff of ashes - no big deal.

    On a hangfire I just count to 30 before ejecting it. Never had one go off outside the weapon.

    My main concern is the empty brass or fired shotgun hulls. We do a lot of shooting at my place and it is understood that you will police your empties.

    As you noted the mower & empties don't mix. I mow around my buildings with a garden tractor. I've ran over an empty shotgun hull and the blade cut the brass, (plated steel) at an angle, next pass it went thru the thin part of the tire, instant flat. :mad:

    Years ago I had a couple boxes of surplus FN .45ACP that were snap-bang and tarnished. I took them down to the creek and pitched them in.

    It sort of depends how much effort you want to put in, burying them would probably be best but I'm very, very lazy.
     

  3. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I've thrown some into heavily wooded areas, where I know the chances of a horse stepping on it or it getting run over with a lawnmower is almost nonexistent.

    Rimfire are the ones I'm most careful with. I have a friend who was shot in the leg when he ran over a .22 with a push mower. It did minimal damage, caught the outer edge of his calf and lodged just under the skin after traveling only about 2 inches from the entry wound. But imagine if that had been a testicle.
     
  4. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    I was pulling a trash can across the shop floor where evidently a .22 happen to lay . POP , Wtf was that ? looked down and saw the casing . Another reason not to leave them on the ground is that 19month olds will find EVERY SINGLE ONE and try to eat them . As for the mower I have a 74in deer front mow / bush hog / car crusher / bull dozer and stump grinder .
    So I ques that when thrown in a fire the heat must expand the casing a bit and when the charge does light its not that power full ?
    I did manage to chunk about 2k 209 primers in the fire one time , that was fun
     
  5. Muliemaster

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    There was a test done on myth busters as well as many messin around the bullet will not fire with hardly any energy due to the lack of a chamber an barrel to compress the gasses, the case will fly but the bullet is pretty much not goin any where
     
  6. jjfuller1

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    when i get them after a couple tries i set them aside. take em home take em aprt with plyers and light the powder with a match to watch it go poof.. that way its not a completely wasted round because i still get enjoyment from it
     
  7. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    Its funner if you put the powder in a matchbox car or ant hill , I was destructive when i was a kid ,wait , i still am
     
  8. orangello

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    I don't guess i get many duds, but they get pitched in a ditch or other area unlikely to get traffic out at the shooting area (low traffic area itself).


    I can't imagine a testicle of any species making a decent projectile; the penetration would be pitiful.
     
  9. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    You know what I meant! Lol, your right though, one thrown at high velocity would probably just squish and bounce.
     
  10. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The components can be salvaged and most reused. Pull the bullet and reload it. Polish the case and reload it. The primer is toast. The powder can be sprinkled on the lawn, it is high in nitrogen.

    For rimfires, buggered up centerfire brass or berdan primed cases, toss the case in a bucket, when you have a full 5 gallon bucket, take it to the recycler and get $2+ a pound
     
  11. partdeux

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    Someone mentioned taking a 2" pipe with caps on both ends, one end had a hole drilled large enough for the biggest round. Through it in the bonfire from time to time.
     
  12. dragunovsks

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    I let them sit in a bucket of water for a couple days, might be overkill but oh well.

    I also police my brass for two reasons. I plan on at some time getting into reloading so i keep all my brass to reuse later, got thousands of once fired 5.56, 9mm, .45 ACP, .380 ACP, 22-250 REM, 7.62 (x39 and 54mm) brass to get me started.

    Another reason is an empty 7.62x54 mm case hit by a garden tractor blade will knock the driver side window out of a dodge dakota with ease.
     
  13. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Spoken like a man who's learned the hard way. Sorry to hear it.
     
  14. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    I use to leave all the .22 and 7.62 steel empties sitting out like a war zone for all to see that it was not the house to be effed with :D
     
  15. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Yep, i always police my brass but one got away. I mustve mowed 20 times since i shot my m44 before it happened, i thought i hit a rock till i found the case in the truck seat with all the glass
     
  16. Trez

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    I do the same as robo.... Sometimes If its a neat looking cartridge or one I dont have in my collection Ill keep it... Ive had duds that sat for years and have never went off
     
  17. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Though the individual cartridges pose little risk when burned, containing them in a confined space could be very bad. I would not recommend such a practice.
     
  18. partdeux

    partdeux Well-Known Member

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    Hole in the end would prevent pressure build up... But I've never tried it.
     
  19. headhunter

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    The last time i spent 4 yrs on a BSA range and their recommendation was to soak non firing rimfire in penetrating oil to kill them. I always wondered at what point they were safe .
    Grabbing the bullet on a RIMFIRE with a multitool and simply pushing the case to the side with your thumb seems to work the best. Your thumb is soft enough nothing will go bang. The brass you can recycle , the lead too. The powder will probably have green flecks in it -this is the primer and has probably been jared loose by jostling and so if you were to keep hitting the back of the case forever it still wouldn't go. Throw the powder on your lawn for fertilizer.
    Centerfire is a whole nother world and the only save way to disassemble a round is with a bullet puller.
     
  20. JTJ

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    I have one of the hammer style bullet pullers. I pull the bullet and dump the empty case in water overnight.