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Discussion in 'The Club House' started by rigjumpr, Oct 26, 2011.
telling it like it is.
one of these days i will learn how to post the correct way
bare with me please.
I like it!
We need more "truth in advertising" ads like that!
thats awesome!! "youve already proven you cant make a decision" lol
Yanno, everyone would be up in arms if someone advertised that they wouldnt teach, say, a white person, black person, christian, Jew, hindu etc.
As much as i do not adhere to any muslim teachings, as an american, i find this ad slightly offensive to my FREEDOM LOVING sensibilities. Last i checked, the first amendment was still in effect..watered down as it may be.
>>Donning fire suit<<
OK, flame away.
Now that the flames have been extinguished...i DO agree with the "Sensible decision" part of it.
Ok, no flame throwers here so no worries, but, (I do have access one) Can you explain why or how you find this add offensive? The proprietor is up front with everything.
Simply that he states he isnt going to teach any non christian arab or Muslim. Put the shoe on the other foot so to speak. If someone said they wouldnt teach a Jew, folks would be up in arms. If someone advertised "Dont bother bringing your black ass to me for teaching" there would be fire works.
See what i am saying here...if he doesnt want to teach a muslim or arab, fine. Dont advertise it, if someone shows up that IS "offensive" to him, simply refuse by saying something to the effect of "Sorry, my classes are at capacity." or something suchlike.
Lets just call it my "inner liberal" peeking out to take a look around.
Yes your "inner Liberalism" is coming to the surface. Why cant the proprietor refuse to serve "them?" I can only imagine if the flight schools for the 9/11 pilots had not trained the now infamous pilots what would have been the outcome. speeking to your liberal side, doesn't the shop owner have certain "rights" on his own property to serve or not serve whom he wishes?
Yes yes yes i knew the "proprietor rights/serve whom he wants" argument was coming.
What i am saying is it could have been handled in a different way. If it was any other group besides Muslims, folks would be outraged. It just seems kinda "unamerican" IMHO. Kinda like the Japanese concentration camps during WWII.
As far as the 9/11 pilots, the schools HAD their red flags and missed 'em. Besides, they would have found somewhere/one else to train 'em.
I can certainly go along with a proprietor having the right to refuse service, and as an added comment, I detest the politically correct society we now live in. If he had discriminated against Muslims or Obama supporters quietly, he'd have no trouble. However, since he went public with his feeling, the very government agency that licenses him, and you, to provide the Texas concealed carry course, plans action against him.
I'm hardly a liberal, matter of fact, I'm more conservative than most of the field of candidates the Republicans have running for President. But, I also see the fact that there are Muslims who are not bent on killing all not of their faith. I also realize that there are Democrats, and people who did vote for Obama who are interested in the shooting sports. I don't have to agree with each and every political or religious belief another person has to welcome them to shooting. I content myself that they're showing a desire to learn to shoot, and become a member of the gun culture. Just because they see the world differently than I do does not, nor should it, restrict their right to keep and bear arms.
People have taken up arms in our country for better than 235 years to protect the rights we cherish in our country, whether you or I agree with their political point of view, or their choice of religion. To argue otherwise is simply a slap in the face to the brave men and women who have defended our rights.